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I cannot get this Bloomfield over 3.9Ghz

Caporegime
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As above. Help! BSOD in different ways of trying. just 100Mhz more....

My settings.

RAM:

EMP: Enabled, Manual.
DRam Timing: Manual. 9-9-9-24
RAM Volts: 1.61v
RAM Multi: x8
RAM speed is ~1500Mhz (Standard corsair ram)

cpu:

cpu core volts: +10mv
vroop: no
cpu vtt (uncore) +140mv, i don't have a readout for what it actually is, default is +180mv, i set it lower to help with temps.
cpu turbo: no
bclock (fsb) 186mhz
cpu multi: x21. that will give you 3.9ghz
qpi: auto
cpu uncore multi: x18. that will give you 3.3ghz on the north bridge, try it at 16x, it maybe a little high.
is it just not meant to be? :mad:

 
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when I tried to get my 920 up there I couldn't get stable for love nor money using x21 multi..

4.2ghz - 1.36v - 220blck - x20 multi
4.0ghz - 1.33v - 200blck - x20 multi
3.8ghz - 1.3v - 200blck - x19 multi
 
x21 or x22 worked grand on my 920, albeit it needed a touch more vcore at 20x200, 1.65v on ram, uncore at 2x memory speed. The main voltages to tweak on x58 are qpi and vcore.
 
Hi, OC BIOS X58A UD5 REV2.0 / 4.0GHz - 4.2GHz Note use this as a rough guide, overclock at your oen risk.


BSOD codes for overclocking
0x101 = increase vcore
0x124 = increase/decrease vcore or QPI/VTT...have to test to see which one it is <----- Almost always QPI...
0x0A = unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore
0x1E = increase vcore
0x3B = increase vcore
0x3D = increase vcore
0xD1 = QPI/VTT, increase/decrease as necessary
0x9C = QPI/VTT most likely, but increasing vcore has helped in some instances
0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency or uncore multi unstable, increase RAM voltage or adjust QPI/VTT, or lower uncore if you're higher than 2x
0x109 = Not enough or too Much memory voltage
0x116 = Low IOH (NB) voltage, GPU issue (most common when running multi-GPU/overclocking GPU)
System Freeze = Usually increase V-core and test for improvement.

Universal terms
BCLK- Short for Base CLocK. This is the base frequency at which your CPU will drive the rest of the PC. The limiting factors in max BCLK will be
the cpu itself (luck of the draw) and the motherboard (luck of the draw/quality control). (BCLK)CPU Multi = CPU Frequency. For 32nm Westmere chips
it is best to overclock with chips that have high multipliers as max BCLK is low with these chips. At and beyond 200 BCLK the qpi/vtt voltage
required to post become too high to be considered safe to overclock for over 24 hours.

DRAM- Main Memory, ur DDR3, the triple channel goodness, whatever... (BCLK)Memory Multipler = DRAM frequency.

Uncore- This is in the block diagram but not written. Uncore is a frequency that the CPU handles everything from the north bridge to the south bridge.
Uncore must be at least 2x as great as the memory frequency. This can be an issue if your CPU/motherboard can not handle an insanely high uncore, so for
the record a memory overclock will affect the uncore stability. An overclock can get a special edge by pushing the uncore beyond 2(memory multi). If you
have room to OC it then go for it. SPECIAL NOTE there are substancial findings to suggest the average overclocker can increase their uncore multi by 1
and may achieve higher system stability even at mild OCs. This can even reduce voltage at higher OCs and is a MUST to consider for MAX OC.

QPI- Quick Path Interface is the memory I/O for the CPU. With CPUs like the i7 920 the low QPI rating can interfere with MAX OC. Only a few motherboards
have the options to circumvent this barrier.
IOH- North Bridge, affected directly by Uncore
ICH- South Bridge, less affected by Uncore than the North Bridge
CPU Multiplier- Explained in the BCLK bullet as a factor of overall CPU frequency the CPU multiplier represents the CPU's proportional speed to the BCLK. For a x21 CPU multiplier you would take the BCLK frequency and that's how many cycles the CPU completes before it is addressed by the BCLK.

Advanced CPU Features:

CPU Clock Ratio ..................[a] 21x191=4.0GHz - 21x201=4.2GHz
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ........[A] - E
CPU Cores Enabled ................[All]
CPU Multi Threading ..............[A] - E
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ..........[A] - E
C3/C6/C7 State Support ...........[A] - D
CPU Thermal Monitor ..............[A] - E
CPU EIST Function ................[A] - E
Virtualization Technology ........[A] - E
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ...........[A] - E


Uncore & QPI Features:

QPI Link Speed ...................[A] - x36
Uncore Frequency .................[A] - x17
Isonchronous Frequency ...........[A] - E


Standard Clock Control:

Base Clock (BCLK) Control ....................[A] - E
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .........................[A] - 191/201
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ..................[A] - 101
C.I.A.2.......................................[A] - D

Advanced Clock Control:

CPU Clock Drive ..............................[A] - 800mV
PCI Express Clock Drive ......................[A] - 900mV
CPU Clock Skew ...............................[A] - 00ps
IOH Clock Skew ...............................[A] - 00ps


Advanced DRAM Features:

Performance Enhance ..........................[A] - turbo
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ...............[D
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ...............[A] - 8X
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .................[A] - TURBO

Channel A > B > C Timing Settings ALL THE SAME

##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time .............................8 [A] - 9
tRCD .........................................8 [A] - 9
tRP ..........................................8 [A] - 9
tRAS ........................................24 [A] - 24
CR............................................2 [A] - 2


##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ..........................................[A]
tRRD .........................................[A]
tWTR .........................................[A]
tWR ..........................................[A]
tWTP .........................................[A]
tWL ..........................................[A]
tRFC .........................................[A]
tRTP .........................................[A]
tFAW .........................................[A]
Command Rate (CMD) ......[1]

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...........................[A]

Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ........................[A] STANDARD/LVL 1/LVL 2/ Enabled TO LEVEL 1 = 4.2GHz:Vcore-1.33125 / 4.0GHz:Vcore-1.3250Vcore
CPU Vcore ....................................[AUTO]= 4.2GHz:Vcore-1.33125 / 4.0GHz:Vcore-1.3250Vcore
Dynamic Vcore(DVID)...........................[AUTO] > Using DVID = MORMAL] [1.33125 - 1.25625=DVId 0.07500Vcore=4.2]/[1.3250 - 1.25625=DVID 0.06875Vcore=4.0]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v .......................[A] - 1.335V
CPU PLL 1.800v ...............................[A] - 1.800v

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ..................................[A] - 1.500v
QPI PLL 1.100v ...............................[A] - 1.100V
IOH Core 1.100v ..............................[A] - 1.100V
ICH I/O 1.500v ...............................[A] - 1.500v
ICH Core 1.1v ................................[A] - 1.100v

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..........................[A] - 1.540v
DRAM Termination 0.750v.......................[A] - 0.750V

Channel A > B > C Timing Settings ALL THE SAME

Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v........................[A] - 0.750V
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v........................[A] - 0.750V
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v........................[A] - 0.750V

Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v.....................[A] - 0.750V
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v.....................[A] - 0.750V
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v.....................[A] - 0.750V

A quick guide of how to enable Dynamic Vcore:
1. you need to know voltage needed for your OC under 100% load
2. you need to know your cpu's default voltage (can differ between identical cpu models!)

To find out both get CPU-Z. Load into windows and start CPU-Z, ie > start Linx, when the CPU is at 100% load check CPU-Z voltage. That's your load voltage.

Then go into the bios, set cpu vcore to normal. Lower your multi so you get around 2.8ghz speed at full load (imitating default speed). Boot into Windows
and load your CPU 100% again, check CPU-Z while doing that to find out what is your normal voltage!

Now you're almost done, go into the bios again, set/leave cpu vcore at "normal", go into advanced voltage settings and set dynamic vcore at number closest
to number derived from (VCORE_UNDER_LOAD_OC - VCORE_UNDER_LOAD_DEFAULT)
 
4.2ghz is easy...with a decent chip:D even had mine benching at 4.5ghz but was no where near stable

id try performance enhance on standard tho,turbo usually is too tight for the secondary ram timings

assuming you have a gigabyte board
 
Guys thank you for your input, its a bit late in the day now so i will get to work on it again tomorrow using your suggestions, and let you know how it goes :)
 
My X58 IOH is reading 60c in the BIOS HWmonitor, i have turned it up to 1.3v to get it to boot. it was at 50c before that.

Took some reading from here

I also had to use the CPU vCore Voltage +300mv setting to gain complete stability. CPU VDroop Compensation was needed in this case which I find curious as most boards seem to work better when I turn that feature off. CPU VTT needed to be raised to +220mv. 1.8v PLL Voltage setting needed to be adjusted to 1.997v as well. One of the most key adjustments was to the X58 I0H voltage. I had to increase it to 1.3v to get the system to behave correctly.

I don't know if its stable yet. but it did boot at 4Ghz for the first time ever
 
what board are you using humbug? and where are you at now with cpu v and cpu/vtt voltages?

I never had to mess with the ioh voltages,only if your running sli or xfire that would need a tweak
 
what board are you using humbug? and where are you at now with cpu v and cpu/vtt voltages?

I never had to mess with the ioh voltages,only if your running sli or xfire that would need a tweak

Foxcomm Flaming Blade. i have put it back to a mild overclock.

I have put it up for sale, done messing about, i'm getting a new setup.

Thanks for your help guys :)
 
a 2600k/2700k is all you need imo

3770k if you can get a cheap one but I cant tell the diff between mine

ohh and a z68/77 board,onboard graphics is handy to have sometimes
 
a 2600k/2700k is all you need imo

3770k if you can get a cheap one but I cant tell the diff between mine

ohh and a z68/77 board,onboard graphics is handy to have sometimes

I agree, i'm happy with a 26/700K. i'm just going for a cheeky try on the IB if i could have.
 
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