I don't really get this... Devil?

Snooble · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:14

Was thinking today over a glass of tea (ran out of mugs)..

Why does the Devil punish people who are evil?

Surely he'd embrace them and form an alliance to take over the universe?

Or is he partners with God - he hands out the punishments while God helps the good guys..

But then why all that teasing in the desert?

religion is ridiculous /thread

Cosimo · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:15

Snooble said:
religion is ridiculous /thread

Amen.

Glaucus · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:16

He doesn't puniah, the whole modern devil/hell is nothing but books like dantes inferno.

Strife212 · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:16

Snooble said:
Was thinking today over a glass of tea

Whoever he is, you are clearly in league with him.

Redz · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:19

Strife212 said:
Whoever he is, you are clearly in league with him.

Maybe he just has sympathy for him.

Danthus · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:20

Devil, God, mythical beings used to control people for the benefit of a minority.

OriginalJonty · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:22

The devil and his followers were banished to Hell for daring to go to war against God. Maybe he has people who go to Hell tortured to mock God and show him the people he could not save, showing a weakness in God himself.

It's a good a reason as any.

Pestilence · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:23

OriginalJonty said:
The devil and his followers were banished to Hell for daring to go to war against God. Maybe he has people who go to Hell tortured to mock God and show him the people he could not save, showing a weakness in God himself.

It's a good a reason as any.

That makes sense, actually. Considering God is supposed to be all-caring etc., it would be a true affront to him to see those he couldn't save ruthlessly tortured forever.

FutileBreadMachine · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:25

Actually the devil is not in hell, he currently roams the Earth and will be cast into Hell by Jesus on Judgement Day.

Glaucus · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:27

Pestilence said:
That makes sense, actually. Considering God is supposed to be all-caring etc., it would be a true affront to him to see those he couldn't save ruthlessly tortured forever.

It doesn't make any sense as you are thinking of hell in the modern idea which has no basis in religious texts.

Van Hellseek · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:27

There is no such thing as good and evil. It's a pointless abstract concept.

There is biology, psychology and circumstance.

Cosimo · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:27

Redz said:
Maybe he just has sympathy for him.

Just like the Rolling Stones.

Pestilence · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:28

RationalGaze said:
Actually the devil is not in hell, he currently roams the Earth and will be cast into Hell by Jesus on Judgement Day.

Is he Mel Gibson?

Parsifal · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:28

The theory goes that he rebelled against god with an army of rebel angels and tempts humanity to test their loyalty to god.

Devils in hell do not punish humans, they simply torture them because they are evil. Part of the punishment of hell is living in a world populated with evil beings. The devils themselves live in misery.

You can take or leave the belief if you want.

shaffaaf27 · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:31

naa, the devil is a jin, not am angel.

refused to bow to adam, and got merked.

Pestilence · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:32

AcidHell2 said:
It doesn't make any sense as you are thinking of hell in the modern idea which has no basis in religious texts.

Well, I assume you'd know all about it considering your username.

I have no religious beliefs whatsoever, or anything beyond basic knowledge of religious texts, but for the "modern era", as you call it, idea of hell OriginalJonty's explanation is, as he says, as good as any for the question posed in the OP.

Out of interest, what exactly is the "original" idea of hell?

OriginalJonty · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:34

AcidHell2 said:
It doesn't make any sense as you are thinking of hell in the modern idea which has no basis in religious texts.

Yeah, I'm not well versed in Hell as depicted in religious texts. I mean the closest I've really read about it was when I read Paradise Lost by Milton but in that Milton, unintentionally, represents the Devil as an anti-hero while God can give no sound reasons for his actions.

peterattheboro · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:34

Snooble said:
Was thinking today over a glass of tea (ran out of mugs)..

Wash one?

robgmun · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:36

Actually on Judgement Day the Devil wil be thrown into hell along with the rest of the people that'll go there.

It'll be God's own angels that will do the punishing of both the Devil and people

RDM · 17 Feb 2011 at 11:37

Pestilence said:
That makes sense, actually. Considering God is supposed to be all-caring etc., it would be a true affront to him to see those he couldn't save ruthlessly tortured forever.

Considering God is also supposed to be all powerful then there would be no one he couldn't save. If hell exists, God created it and you will only end up their because he decided to send you there. So I am not sure "all-caring" is a good description.