I don't want a job

I laughed when I heard him say that he didn't want to work, it's unbelievable.
Honestly I think there's little that can be done about this kind of situation because you can't really throw people out on the streets, especially if there are children involved.
 
What employer would even take him?

He makes it perfectly clear at the interviews that he doesn't want a job so they never offer him a job.
 
Adrianr said:
Sorry to hear you've had to go through being mugged, multiple times. Would you be happy to be mugged even more? Because that was my point. I'm more than happy to bribe lazy people not to turn to crime, some people will just be lazy. There's a bigger problem to solve than just cutting off benefits. Perhaps something to do with the birth rate amongst those without the means or environment to properly raise a child would be a good place to start.

I'm not saying all will turn to crime either. I'm saying crimes rates would increase. Which they would. Do you think they wouldn't?

Your last point is just mental, I can't think of a better word. Keeping someone locked up indefinitely until someone decides they've changed their ways, whilst forcing them to work? How do you use their prison life as measure of how ready they are for the real world? Do you know anyone who's served a long sentence in prison and has had to come out and integrate back into society? I do, and it's not easy.

I know everyone on here likes to deal in black and whites. "Cut off their benefits!", "Send them to prison until they're fixed!", etc, thankfully no-one here to my knowledge is in any real position of power. Or if they are they view things as consequences, and not just actions. I think your last sentence tells me a lot about your position regarding this, I don't think you have anything more to hear from me on the matter :) Good day!
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The interviewer teases the man that his days are numbered. It's not nice the way she talks down to him. She probably rakes in £60k+ a year and has lived a privileged life.

So she his days are numbered, do you think the government will really do anything?
 
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Can't remember where I heard this...

The benefit system costs the UK £4bn a year while the tax evasion costs the UK £40bn a year.

Can anyone confirm this? I'm not saying it somehow justifies his behavior.
 
rypt said:
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4bn a year?

That adds up to more than 4bn to me! plus all the money to admin it!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00yjtg2

Yes, I re-listened to the discussion. GEORGE MONBIOT said that the benefit fraud costs 1.1bn, tax evasion costs 42bn. He reckons some economists think tax evasion might be as high as 120bn. He compares fraud and evasion, one being illegal and the other legal.
 
rypt said:
There is a difference though, one is money we don't get, the other is money we give out pointlessly.

I can't blame companies and people evading tax as frankly our tax rate is far too high for the services that we do get.

As for only talking about benefit fraud, I'd rather go further than that and talk about benefits period. We spend the same on the welfare system (no nhs included) as we get in income tax, and that is just not financially prudent
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What do you propose?
 
rypt said:
Complete rethink of the system, changing it to purely stamp based, getting rid of tax credits and instead using negative taxation (as Dolph advocates).

Complete rethink of what services the state needs to provide, also ensuring that whatever it does provide is done efficiently.
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Yes, sounds good. I don't think the conservatives have enough time and that we'll have a labour governemnt soon.
 
That guy must be in his late 30's. In Britain a whole new group of young people are falling into unemployment. I can't see that young people today are ever going to work in cake factories.
 
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