I feel sorry for....

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this dude, who has 55,682 points. Just read some of those posts, he orders a game, completes it and moves onto the next. Surely he does other stuff? But from his blog, it just doesn't sound like it. I must admit i'll play a bit harder or go and find out the best way to do a particularly hard achievement, but this guy is something else. An extract:

F.E.A.R. is sitting on my desk waiting for review, but I'm wondering how best to attack it. If I go for the no death achievement on easy, I should also go for the all boosters / health packs. I'll need to go through the game again on Easy to get the no boosters / no slow-mo achievement & maybe Ammo Hog. I'll have to play it again on Extreme to unlock that Fearsome and also Fearless. The multiplayer achievements are an entirely different story that I can't even to begin to wrap my head around.

If that wasn't enough to worry about, NFS: Carbon and FIFA 07 will most likely land in my mailbox today. Carbon's achievements don't seem overly tough, just focused on completion of the game for the big point ones. On the other hand, FIFA is just straight up insanity. I'll be shocked to rack up more than a few hundred points on that one.
 
This is no similar to major WoW addicts tbh.

That isn't a bash at the game btw, just the small amount of majorly addicted people that play it like 50+ hours a week.

I think it's just sad that this guy feels he has to do this, sounds as if he just lives to game, and nothing else.
 
Kreeeee said:
It's messed up the online community by encouraging peopel to complete their games and sell them.
Wait? Thats a bad thing why?
It's about time gamers were encouraged to complete games...
 
The actual unlocking of achivements is quite cool because it's an added incentive to do stuff that you might not necessarily do otherwise, but having a gamerscore that represents this is pointless.
 
You must have played a fair few games to get 23k :p

Whilst I enjoy the points thing, its not a reason to play a game.
 
JaFFa said:
You must have played a fair few games to get 23k :p

Whilst I enjoy the points thing, its not a reason to play a game.
It's near enough a reason for me to play a game. If it wasn't for points, I wouldn't have played TR:L which turned out to be a great game, likewise with Lego Star Wars, or Hitman. Points are a great way to get people to play games that they wouldn't normally play.
 
Whatever floats his boat I suppose. I dont play my games to collect the points and achivements heck I dont even know how may points I have and Ive had my 360 for a year nearly.

p.s how do you check your gamer score???
 
I play very much like he does, get a game, look at how best to attack it in the most economical manner. I'm a gamerscore-whore for sure, could name a few others on here too. This doesn't mean i don't enjoy gaming tho. I get great satisfaction out of getting every last bit out of a game, and in fact i enjoy playing almost any game, simply for the sheer challenge that achievements present.

To put some context into my opinion of 'enjoyment'. Many people on here have tackled Call Of Duty 2 on veteran. Now there is very little ENJOYMENT to be had from this. For the most part, even as an accomplished gamer, it consists of frustrating trial and error repeat-ad-nauseum. However people DO IT. Gamer Points are only half to blame. Primarily people do it for the challenge, and of course the prestige of being able to say you did it. These i term post-enjoyment effects, or p.e.e if you will. and my pee is very important....wait...
 
NokkonWud said:
Wait? Thats a bad thing why?
It's about time gamers were encouraged to complete games...
Surely it's better if the game is good enough that you want to complete it for its own sake, rather than to rack up gamer points... :)
 
"I think Sony lives in some sort of Bizzaro world. Why in the world would Sony ditch their blatant copy of Microsoft achievements? I can understand nixing the scoring side of things due to fallacies in the gamerscore system, but eliminating achievement competition between gamers is just Kooky!

Achievements, and more specifically gamerscore, have caused me to sample the majority of the available titles for the 360. Without the achievement system, I wouldn't have touched more than a handful of titles since launch. I'm curious to see how similar Sony's online service will be to Xbox Live without my beloved gamerscore."

He's not playing though because he likes the games he's playing because he feels he has too.

Initially I did get sucked in but I will no longer play something I hate for points. I couldve ripped 600 points from splinter cell, 1000 from x men, blazing angels etc etc but decided I didn't find them fun so why waste 8 hours of your life. I'd rather waste it on live playing games I like.

The trouble is so many people seem to think gaming without an achievement is wasted gaming time.
 
I've always played games which didn't have these points attached to them, and the concept is of no interest to me at all. When I get a 360 I won't pay them any heed whatsoever.
 
Im pretty happy with my 2100 or so points hehehe i dont play the game to unlock the points i just play it for fun hence why mines so low hehe
 
WHAT!!! said:
Im pretty happy with my 2100 or so points hehehe i dont play the game to unlock the points i just play it for fun hence why mines so low hehe

i've only got like 1400 points, had my 360 for a good 4 months now with 6/7 games. hmmmmmm :p
 
dannyjo22 said:
The trouble is so many people seem to think gaming without an achievement is wasted gaming time.

I felt exactly the same when I first got the xbox and would strive to get as many achievements out of games as possible. In a good way it encouraged me to stick with games longer and made me stick with them until I got totally fed up, but in a bad way it just added frustration when it took a whole day just to get the last achievement or something.

Now I pretty much ignore them but still like the way they encourage you to take a different route, or add further challenge by daring you to try a map on super hard mode without dying.
 
Also i don't like the term "done with this game" (got 1000/1000) that people throw around nowadays. For me, being done with a game means either, the mp scene on it has died (quake 3 arena, sob sob) or i have completed it fully and there's nothing else to do (e.g. dead rising - i refuse to play infinity mode as its sucks balls having no saves points after 7 hours of gaming, saying that though ill probs play through again without adams chainsaws, to make it harder).
 
I really can't see anything wrong with it. The points are good as they encourage people to play all the game. So many games these days have so much you can do, but yet people don't see it all. It means people might get more out of it. Yes you can take it to extreme, but then at least they are playing loads of games, rather than people who just play WoW for hour after hour, day after day etc.

EDIT: Good blog actually, just read some of the recent posts. Well written.
 
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I don't see the point in these points, it's just clever marketing by Microsoft who get people to buy games just for the points. It also helps shift copies of rather rubbish games, just so people can get the achievements.

I don't go out of my way at all to get any points, I just play the game to the end or until I get bored with it.
 
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