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The only decent, again IMO, FWD fast cars are Classic minis with twin cam conversions and monstor metro turbo lumps
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Is torque steer a function of actual power, or is it how the power is delivered?
My current ST220 mondeo doesn't suffer at all, and yet has similar torque to my diesel mondeo. However, the power delivery of the V6 is pretty much linear, compared to the power 'curve' of the TDCi, which was almost vertical at about 2000rpm.
You're not trying hard enough the ST220 has a fair bit of Torque Steer under hard launch.
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[TW]Fox;15258636 said:I have never driven an FWD car with more than 150bhp that didn't have at least some Torque Steer. By far the worst was the Toyota Aurion which you literally had to fight the steering when you launched it hard
Civic Type R?
My 300bhp does do it, as others have said you cant really class it as enjoyable or a desirable characteristic
But i put up with it because of other features.
Despite 400lb/ft of torque, its not overbearing either. Its not fight the wheel bad
But i put up with it because of other features.
Despite 400lb/ft of torque, its not overbearing either. Its not fight the wheel bad
Come to think of it I don't remember it from the Civic but I don't think I did a quick launch from either of them. Actually the FTO wasn't THAT bad either, but it was there..
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Boom-tish.
My car torque steers, especially in the wet. But I'd imagine an 8 year old chasis design, some ditchfinder tyres and an extra 30~bhp on the top of the range model doesn't help.
Tbh I find it quite fun in the wet sometimes, especially roundabouts - other times it can be a pain though. I've got use to it now and know how to launch the car without making it go mad.
Tbh I find it quite fun in the wet sometimes, especially roundabouts - other times it can be a pain though. I've got use to it now and know how to launch the car without making it go mad.
Interestingly enough, I noticed this yesterday evening. I'd found the button that engages traction control, ESP etc., turned it off and wow! Quite a bit more aggressive in 1st and possibly 2nd! Woohoo!
Yes, there is torque steer now!
[TW]Fox;15258636 said:I have never driven an FWD car with more than 150bhp that didn't have at least some Torque Steer. By far the worst was the Toyota Aurion which you literally had to fight the steering when you launched it hard
Try a tweaked and lowered 172, boot it and you are just along for the ride.
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I don't want to go any more off topic, but why don't more Derv cars get torque steer as they often have a lot of torque? Is it just down to the fact that the power delivery is different compared to something like a Clio 172 or that the diesel engine is often heavier?
Because they don't actually have that much more torque at the wheels I believe!
Because diesel torque is at the flywheel, not on the road. It must first go through a gearbox, the end result being a high torque low bhp diesel is putting less torque onto the tarmac than a low torque high bhp petrol car.
Surely nothing a set of front-end polybushes wouldn't sort?