I hate the VXR forums sometimes

Try doing a fast launch in a Corsa. It looks like a lone Hyena scrambling to get away because it just spotted a pack of Lions in the undergrowth.

Torque steer is fun? Hmm no. I would rather be playing and having fun with a true handling characteristic of a car than a design flaw.

"and I can guarantee its easier to control torque steer in acceleration than it is a high powered RWD car."

RWD cars tend to hunker down and get the job done under acceleration - so again, it sounds like you don't really know what you're talking about.

You still have a lot to learn about cars. This much is clear. In 10 years you will look back and think "Why oh why did I think driving around in a crappy little spruced up Corsa when I was a 23 year old adult was a cool thing?".

If you're in the market for this type of small hot hatch with oodles of power. Clio Cup. Every time. Any other choice is flawed.
 
Why do I need, or why would I ever want to do a fast launch in my car? I have no desire to go drag racing, so this is irrelevant, plus, I have more mechanical sympathy than that.

Then you get into the design flaw, and I instantly know what type of person you are, the trouble is, you're being very assertive on a very subjective topic.

NathanE said:
RWD cars tend to hunker down and get the job done under acceleration - so again, it sounds like you don't really know what you're talking about.
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Have you ever driven anything RWD and 300bhp+ (M3s aside), on anything but an ideal surface, hard, from low speed acceleration many RWD cars behave as I describe, I know this from experience, please don't think you're talking to an idiot.

Then we get into condescending territory - In 10 years time, I'll have no such opinion, because I don't have the opinion that its "cool" now, its just the car I believe is best suited to my needs.

The Clio Cup might be your cup of tea, or someone who is a regular tracker - but when I have to consider a daily drive every day, and regular early morning 100+ mile commutes, no thanks. I've also stated the reasons why I didn't buy a 197 a few pages back.

Some people need more from their car than raw pace and handling.
 
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Take my original comment in context, and apply some poetic licence to the usage of rinsed, and lets put the GT4 argument to rest? :)
 
NathanE said:
RWD cars tend to hunker down and get the job done under acceleration - so again, it sounds like you don't really know what you're talking about.
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Tbh it sounds like you don't know what your talking about.

Start the sentence with 'tends', then rips into someone elses post/knowledge? Hardly definitive is it?

The front sticks better with the weight.
 
Biohazard said:
Aye whatever

If thats your response then fine.

But bit naff to rip someone else, then start all the 'ooolaleela' rubbish.
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What response were you expecting? A free education lesson? What "ooolaleela" rubbish?

If you've nothing to contribute then don't post.
 
Where have I said that? I simply said there can be bigger issues getting a RWD car off the line than you get with torque steer, more over, torque steer isn't an issue at all on the VXR, as you originally claimed.
 
MikeHiow said:
Where have I said that? I simply said there can be bigger issues getting a RWD car off the line than you get with torque steer, more over, torque steer isn't an issue at all on the VXR, as you originally claimed.
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Torque steer isn't an issue for your Corsa, because, and I quote, "why would I ever want to do a fast launch in my car".

I don't really know what these "big issues" are with RWD getting off a line either.

This is hilarious :D
 
But if torque steer was an issue, accelerating hard from a 10MPH rolling start would surely reveal it (which it doesn't).

Having owned a transfer box disabled Calibra Turbo, a Rover 220 Coupe Turbo and a Corrado VR6, I can assure you, I know what torque steer is, the VXR doesn't suffer.

You continue to be presumptuous about a car you've never driven, clearly having no idea what you are talking about. Sure, torque steer may be an issue in some FWD cars, it simply is not in the Corsa.

Yet again, you're either trying to twist my words, or you can't read; I never said there were big issues getting a RWD car off the line, I stated that there can be bigger issues than torque steer.
 
On the topic of FWD v. RWD acceleration, I did a bit of googling regarding acceleration in the extreme - drag racers. I never realised there is actually a class for FWD drag racing... Some of these cars look mental!

link
 
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