I hate the VXR forums sometimes

rypt said:
Never understood why we always get the underpowered stuff, our fuel is as good as Japanese stuff.
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The JDM's were designed to run around 99-101 ron, whereas our cars have to run on 95ron.

If I ran my JDM on boost with 95ron it would last around 10mins before expiring in a cloud of smoke. :D
 
Our cars DONT have to run on 95ron, certainly many of the exotics sold might struggle with 95ron - and 99ron is mostly available in the UK - so there was no reason that it could not be tuned for 99ron even in the 90s.
 
rypt said:
Our cars DONT have to run on 95ron, certainly many of the exotics sold might struggle with 95ron - and 99ron is mostly available in the UK.
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True, but they have to as that is what Joe Public will fill his car with as it is 6p a ltr cheaper.
 
rypt said:
It was 1 of 5000 cars produced, Joe Public was not the market for these cars ...
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True, but you could not sell a car for UK market in this country that only ran on 99ron fuel, it would cause no end of headaches. Why do you think no manufacturer has done it, afterall it would be an easy way to get more BHP out of a forced induction engine.
 
rypt said:
Our cars DONT have to run on 95ron, certainly many of the exotics sold might struggle with 95ron - and 99ron is mostly available in the UK - so there was no reason that it could not be tuned for 99ron even in the 90s.
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I may be mistaken here, but 99RON is a fairly recent (Last 6-8 years?) thing on our forecourts, before that, the best you'd find was 97RON IIRC.

But I live on an Island, which has gone from a lot of places supplying 97RON, to no where, to one place that had it shipped over on the ferry fortnightly, now we've only just had Tesco bring it in at 5p over NUL.

Regardless of the RON level (Which isn't the best test of a fuels quality), our fuel, even at 99RON is rather inferior to Japan's stuff.

There's also a difference between 97-99RON being available in most, built up places here, to every petrol pump in the country streaming the finest 100RON fuel in the world :)
 
cymatty said:
Yes but we are on about a 1.6 with 300bhp, thats a different kettle of fish.
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Which means it won't get full boost until 4k RPM (or more?)
Granted it is also FF, so the torque would cause wheelspins on launch anyway, so perhaps waiting a bit for power isn't too bad.
 
So surely you can imagine that 1st gear in a 300bhp FF car will be useless... even in the dry, on **** hot tyres.

2nd in the wet won't be much better.
 
Traction problems in a RWD car can be fun. Traction problems in a FWD car is just plain frustrating.
 
Wow at this thread, anyway my Astra VXR has torque steer but its so mild that when your pushing on and not looking for it you don't notice. It certainly doesn't take away from the driving experiance, it's been overblown by the media.
 
Princey said:
Wow at this thread, anyway my Astra VXR has torque steer but its so mild that when your pushing on and not looking for it you don't notice. It certainly doesn't take away from the driving experiance, it's been overblown by the media.
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It's been completely overblown by this thread as well.
 
MikeHiow said:
Many of these have launch control :cool:, which I imagine helps no end.
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Launch control on over powered FWD cars is a lame gizmo that allows people with leaden brains and lead feet to drive a car quickly that from an engineering POV has far too much going on at the front anyway....IMVHO.
The only decent, again IMO, FWD fast cars are Classic minis with twin cam conversions and monstor metro turbo lumps :D

All the best cars by miles I have driven are RWD - Jags, Porsches, Beemers and also 4WD motors handle nicer than over powered FWD cars.

RWD for the purity WIN yohoho.

For the record, I ride a CBR600F and the only launch control it has is my right hand and the amount of rabbits nose twitching I can take!
 
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