I have a headache

Hopefull_builder · 30 Dec 2022 at 22:20

Good evening. I have looked for the past few weeks at buying a gaming pc that I can build. The building it is not (as far as im aware) the confusing part it is choosing the correct components and I really have no idea what Harley any of it means. For instance there are 8 Ryzen 7 cpus on this site. The same for most things. Im hoping someone here can help me choose the correct components for my needs.
I will only play games on it and I guess watch a bit off YouTube. The games I will play will be COD and civilisation mostly. I would like something that is quite a good spec although I will have no idea how to use it. My budget is £1800-£2000

Cadder · 30 Dec 2022 at 22:25

Is that price for everything, including monitors, mouse and keyboard?

What resolution do you want to game at?

Hopefull_builder · 30 Dec 2022 at 22:29

Cadder said:
Is that price for everything, including monitors, mouse and keyboard?

What resolution do you want to game at?

Thank you for the reply. I will buy them bits separately. Im really not sure is the honest answer on resolution as I probably would not be able to notice the differences

Tetras · 30 Dec 2022 at 22:32

Hopefull_builder said:
Thank you for the reply. I will buy them bits separately. Im really not sure is the honest answer on resolution as I probably would not be able to notice the differences

Can you tell us the monitor you're planning to buy? We can get the resolution from that.

Cadder · 30 Dec 2022 at 22:36

Hmm... You really need to make the decision on the resolution/monitor.

I have two 27" MSI 1440p monitors and I think they're spot on. Of course 4k would be amazing but I am not in desperate need of upgrading. Others may say they can't go below 4k. Still, others might be happy with 1080p.

Our requirements differ though as I mostly use my PC for my CAD work and some light gaming. Fifa and Satisfactory both look really good though.

Hopefull_builder · 30 Dec 2022 at 22:39

Cadder said:
Hmm... You really need to make the decision on the resolution/monitor.

I have two 27" MSI 1440p monitors and I think they're spot on. Of course 4k would be amazing but I am not in desperate need of upgrading. Others may say they can't go below 4k. Still, others might be happy with 1080p.

Our requirements differ though as I mostly use my PC for my CAD work and some light gaming. Fifa and Satisfactory both look really good though.

Im watching videos on resolution now to try understand it

Hopefull_builder · 30 Dec 2022 at 22:48

I would like a 4k monitor but if I can't due to budget at least my computer could handle it if I wish to upgrade

Tetras · 30 Dec 2022 at 22:53

Hopefull_builder said:
Im watching videos on resolution now to try understand it

Bigger number = more pretty & more immersive, BUT more expensive to run.

The 'number' is just the number of pixels, 4K is actually shorthand for 3840 x 2160 pixels.

With more pixels, you get more detail on the screen, but the computer has to generate a more detailed image (hence, ££££).

Bigger size monitors will have more pixels (e.g. you won't get 4K in a 19" screen), but that's not always the case.

Hopefull_builder · 30 Dec 2022 at 23:01

For me being new to it all do you think I should not go for 4k then? Im open to advice on it. Im not a massive gamer at all really it was more just when I get time

Tetras · 30 Dec 2022 at 23:24

Hopefull_builder said:
For me being new to it all do you think I should not go for 4k then? Im open to advice on it. Im not a massive gamer at all really it was more just when I get time

It is doable for a 2K budget.

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Eight Core 5.40GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £329.99
Asus Prime B650-Plus (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard - £209.99
TeamGroup Vulcan 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C36 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLBD532G5600HC36BDC01) - £139.99

2x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) - £124.99

Phanteks AMP 1000W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply - £149.99
Phanteks Eclipse P600S Silent Midi Tower Case - Black - £139.99
EK Water Blocks EK-AIO 360 Basic All In One CPU Water Cooler - 360mm - £109.99
EK Water Blocks EK-AIO LGA1700 upgrade kit - £0.00

Powercolor Radeon RX 6800 XT Red Devil 16GB PCI-Express Graphics Card - £629.99

Grand Total: £1,974.61 (includes delivery)

You could choose some cheaper parts (case, CPU, cooler, motherboard & PSU) and squeeze in a 6900 XT, 7900 XT (or even 4080), it depends what you prefer to put the money into.

Hopefull_builder · 30 Dec 2022 at 23:42

Thankyou. That looks great to be honest. Would this 4k compatible too

lsg1r · 30 Dec 2022 at 23:55

Something to consider is CES is 'next week' and there are rumours of some new pc bits which might have an impact on current prices etc.

So if you can I'd maybe hold off until after the 8th January.

Tetras · 30 Dec 2022 at 23:56

Hopefull_builder said:
Would this 4k compatible too

It would be very strong at 1440p.

4K will be playable, but you may need to turn the settings down in some newer games.

If you want stronger 4K performance then I'd suggest making some edits (e.g. downgrade case, swap 7700X for 7600X, maybe lose a SSD), so that you can fit a 7900 XT or 4080.

Hopefull_builder · 31 Dec 2022 at 00:09

lsg1r said:
Something to consider is CES is 'next week' and there are rumours of some new pc bits which might have an impact on current prices etc.

So if you can I'd maybe hold off until after the 8th January.

will do that thankyou

Hopefull_builder · 31 Dec 2022 at 00:09

Tetras said:
It would be very strong at 1440p.

4K will be playable, but you may need to turn the settings down in some newer games.

If you want stronger 4K performance then I'd suggest making some edits (e.g. downgrade case, swap 7700X for 7600X, maybe lose a SSD), so that you can fit a 7900 XT or 4080.

all this Information is amazing thank you

Tetras · 31 Dec 2022 at 00:54

Hopefull_builder said:
all this Information is amazing thank you

You're welcome, if you want to see the difference (between 7900 XT & 6800 XT) and have 20 minutes, have a watch of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFu7fhsGymY

A build re-spec to fit one (cheaper case, dropped 1 SSD, downgraded the 7700X):

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Six Core 5.30GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £248.98
Asus Prime B650-Plus (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard - £209.99
TeamGroup Vulcan 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C36 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLBD532G5600HC36BDC01) - £139.99

1x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) - £124.99

Phanteks AMP 1000W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply - £149.99
Lian Li Lancool 205 Midi-Tower Case - Black Window - £64.99
Alpenfohn Glacier Water 280 High Speed ARGB CPU Water Cooler - 280mm - £110.00

Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £949.99

Grand Total: £2,012.12 (includes delivery)

There's even potential to squeeze in a 7900 XTX by going for a cheaper air cooler like the Thermalright (review).

Cadder · 31 Dec 2022 at 07:30

Out of curiosity @Hopefull_builder, do you have a TV? If so, is it 4K?

Hopefull_builder · 31 Dec 2022 at 10:09

Cadder said:
Out of curiosity @Hopefull_builder, do you have a TV? If so, is it 4K?

I do have a 4k tv yes but its a 40inch so do not want to use that

pastymuncher · 31 Dec 2022 at 10:19

4K is all well and good and will look great but you are always going to be tied into having to buy the upper range of graphics cards which are massively more expensive than a mid range card. This is exactly why I wrote off 4k and settled on 1440p several years ago. Mid range cards can easily handle that resolution these days and it is a marked improvement over a 1080p screen especially on a monitor capable of 144hz or more. A 27" 1440p high hz screen with Freesync/Gsync compatible would be my choice to keep costs down now and in the future at upgrade time. It's something you need to carefully decide on before you go buying bits for the actual pc.

Hopefull_builder · 31 Dec 2022 at 10:43

pastymuncher said:
4K is all well and good and will look great but you are always going to be tied into having to buy the upper range of graphics cards which are massively more expensive than a mid range card. This is exactly why I wrote off 4k and settled on 1440p several years ago. Mid range cards can easily handle that resolution these days and it is a marked improvement over a 1080p screen especially on a monitor capable of 144hz or more. A 27" 1440p high hz screen with Freesync/Gsync compatible would be my choice to keep costs down now and in the future at upgrade time. It's something you need to carefully decide on before you go buying bits for the actual pc.

im seriously considering this as I really do not think id appreciate the 4k anyway. Would you advise on a graphics card that's at the high end of mid range. Thank you