i know nothing about macs lol

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well my friend bought a mac but he's had it for a few months and it's getting a bit slow, he wants to wipe it and restore it as he got it, but he bought it as almost brand new (about a few weeks old) and the seller didn't include a restore disk, where could he get another one? of the apple website?

also i might have to do this for him, is restoring a mac just the same as windows restore disks really?

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Surely a simple clean up of the disk and a defrag would do?

Why would a mac need rebuilding to improve speed? I thought that was something you only had to do to spyware infested windows pc run by users who have no clue wtf they are doing.

I find it hilarious when I speak to people who are rebuilding their system every month or so.
 
Johny Boy said:
Surely a simple clean up of the disk and a defrag would do?

Why would a mac need rebuilding to improve speed? I thought that was something you only had to do to spyware infested windows pc run by users who have no clue wtf they are doing.

I find it hilarious when I speak to people who are rebuilding their system every month or so.
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a simple answer would be fine man, no need for smart arse comments tbh.
i don't own a mac, i never have so please excuse me for my lack of knowledge on them.
and we're not taking it apart, just want to wipe and start over clean, it's hardly been a month since he got it.
 
There's no need to defrag a Mac, they do it automatically (look here)

Wiping it and reinstalling it will get rid of all the rubbish he doesn't need, enabling him to just install what he needs afterwards, so may well speed it up.
 
Justin said:
There's no need to defrag a Mac, they do it automatically (look here)

Wiping it and reinstalling it will get rid of all the rubbish he doesn't need, enabling him to just install what he needs afterwards, so may well speed it up.
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thank you, so if i got the exact modle number and maybe serial code could apple supply me with a restore disk or is there anywhere i can get them?
 
yup you can request replacement media for the OS version you have.

Not sure on the cost but £7 seems to ring a bell.

Have you tried running Onyx and enforcing the housekeping to run in the interim will improve things too.
 
Johny Boy said:
still sounds pointless to me considering this is a month old mac. :rolleyes:
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can I ask what positive input you have here?

I agree that may be your opinon but it isn't of any help here.

I take it you do not own or use a mac?
 
Just my input, have you checked temps of the mac? i manage macs everyday and have never come across one getting slower :confused: unless theres heat problems or something using the HD constantly, but as said possibly try a reinstall of OSX and if theres still a problem take it back.
 
just out of interest can you post the top lines of "top"?

Just run the terminal application and at the command prompt type "top". Then just copy the top few lines:

Code: 
Processes:  70 total, 2 running, 68 sleeping... 264 threads            22:40:05
Load Avg:  0.44, 0.42, 0.32     CPU usage:  3.7% user, 6.4% sys, 89.9% idle
SharedLibs: num =  216, resident = 60.5M code, 8.50M data, 15.2M LinkEdit
MemRegions: num =  8371, resident =  290M + 31.3M private,  162M shared
PhysMem:   254M wired,  256M active,  539M inactive, 1.03G used,  997M free
VM: 14.5G +  156M   88055(0) pageins, 0(0) pageouts

Once you've finished just hit 'q' to exit top.

This will tell us if there's lots of applications or proceses running, what the CPU is doing and what memory is being used up.

It could be that there's stuff installed that runs in the background.
 
Right, enough of this arguing.

I think the best bet for the OP would be to get the install discs, format the hard drive, install what he NEEDS, and start a fresh :p
 
It's an interesting point.

Darwin is based on BSD Unix, whether it's continued evolution of it's FS is a different matter.. Most unix filing systems have had evolution thrust on them to cope with either server or desktop requirements..

I would like to see some proper independent benchmarking done as iDefrag is a commerical product.. so it could, partially, be marketing.
 
What is my positive input?

It's to not waste your time on an irrelivance.

I just can't see why you'd need to do a reinstall and I'm trying to save you time, so don't get arsey about it. If you want to waste your time go ahead.
 
NickK said:
It's an interesting point.

Darwin is based on BSD Unix, whether it's continued evolution of it's FS is a different matter.. Most unix filing systems have had evolution thrust on them to cope with either server or desktop requirements..

I would like to see some proper independent benchmarking done as iDefrag is a commerical product.. so it could, partially, be marketing.
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I can only really base it from what I've seen, but it definitely made a difference to my housemates' Macs. Both of them started up considerably quicker after letting iDefrag do a full defragment run.

Perhaps the file system or OS isn't as affected by fragmentation as others, but it evidently does still occur.
 
Johny Boy said:
What is my positive input?

It's to not waste your time on an irrelivance.

I just can't see why you'd need to do a reinstall and I'm trying to save you time, so don't get arsey about it. If you want to waste your time go ahead.
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It's simply your attitude in the last line of your first post in this thread (which is why people are getting a little annoyed) and the second post you made.
 
Here we go a discussion entitled "Why Defrag?".

Go take your time and read it.. perhaps it will stop the childish posts :p

The main reason people have stated that the OP should do a fresh install is because OS X comes bundled with a lot of useless files (garageband loops etc) and the user might need the extra space, and for one thing it's going to boot a helluva lot faster (In my experience) once you start again.
 
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