I need advice for a new psu

ExosyZ

ExosyZ

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Hello,

I've been using a Corsair VS650 for about 2 years now. Now I'm looking for something decent, price isn't a problem. I was aiming at 550-750W.

I have the beQuiet Silent Base 600, an i5 6600k, Gigabyte G1 GTX 1070, Msi Z170a Krait, 1tb sshd + 1tb ssd and the 3 pre-inbuilt fans from the case.

I'd also want some decent kables on the psu, the ones on my VS650 are pretty nice but I've been reading a lot of bad stuff about that psu.

Thanks for your help!
 
iamthenugget said:
i have the silent base 800 case and decided to go with this psu

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-q...us-silver-modular-power-supply-ca-11s-bq.html

never regretted it once and seems as tho its very well made.

however someone with more knowledge than myself will be along soon
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Looks nice but what does silver-modular mean?

I was looking at these:

http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-012-EA
http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-013-SF
http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-014-SF
http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-148-AN
http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-203-AN

I read through the PSU guide because I'm also having coil whine with my GTX 1070. It isn't the gpu itself because a friend built it into his PC and it was completly silent. I've been reading a lot of bad stuff about the Corsair VS650 and really question myself why I bought it in the first place. Guess I was just thinking corsair can't be that bad.

Thanks for your advice!
 
Okay I see, well I thought that they are meant written together (silver-modular, looking at the link), that's why I was wondering what that is haha but now I understand it.

Thanks!
 
Okay thats a lot of information, let me think about that.

I'm only looking for a modular psu since I'm a freak when it comes to cable management. I don't know if I should really try and get a Corsair TX because as you said, the brand gets greedy. When it comes to heat my setup does a pretty good job. Now I think I will be going for a Bitfenix Whisper M, an EVGA Supernova or a Super Flower Leadex. Which of these have the best quality if I'm deciding on a gold, platinum or titanium?


Thanks for your help!
 
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Borealis said:
I would go with an EVGA Supernova either Gold or Platinum rated. It's basically a Superflower Leadex without any LEDs, is Gold rated and EVGA have excellent customer service.

PS, I would remove the rainforest links. Links to competitors aren't permitted.
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Ah thanks for the advice, I've read about "I removed the rainforest" but all I could guess was he meant a PC part. Makes much more sense now^^

I don't really care about LED's in my PC since my case is isolated and closed. So the EVGA Supernova Platinum with 650 W should be enough, even when I'm going to upgrade to i7/1080ti?

I'm really overwhelmed by the support here, very nice!
 
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Minibiker said:
I had the Superflower Leadex in my old build... only downside for a lot of people is the fact it has LED's but for my build was ideal as it was a all white build... it than the LED lights it was a great PSU... I'd definitely consider the EVGA though bud
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Nice I like white setups a lot but I also love my isolated case so lookings of the inside don't do much for me...

Now I'm only thinking if I should get a 650W or a 750W. If I look at the prices at rainforest, the 750W is cheaper which kinda confuses me.
 
Borealis said:
For any single graphics card system, a good 550W PSU is all you need, even when overclocking. The EVGA 650W Platinum is more than you actually need, but it's a superb unit and well worth it.
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Okay nice I will stick to the 650W then because the 750W may be 4€ less but shipping takes on that 10 weeks! 650W will be delivered until friday and that's awesome. Also getting my GSX1000 and Game One on friday so I'm hyped for the weekend :)

Thank you very much for your support lovely community here.

Cheers!
 
Minibiker said:
Like @Borealis has said above a 550w PSU is more than enough for a single GPU system... A few Bequiet PSU's have great reviews and are modular because I see your a bit like me with cable management :p
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Nice I've already ordered the EVGA Supernova 650W platinum looking forward to building it into my system. I had my i5 running on 4.8ghz with the corsair VS650 but it seemed a bit unstable but the EVGA should have no problem with oc maybe I can go up to 5ghz :)

Yes cable management is a huge thing for me I want my pins easy to reach when I'm going to upgrade my motherboard and stuff ;)
 
EsaT said:
Fury X can draw over 400W...
Also 1080 Tis can draw over 300W so with them for heavily overclocked CPU 550W wouldn't be enough.
(+actually i9 7900K's real max consumption is 200W)

There's simply big discrepancy in power consumption between more normal parts and some highest end parts.
For mainstream graphics cards 550W would be enough for two.
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So I can call the 1070 a mainstream graphic card? AMD is known for big power consumption although I don't know how it is with the ryzen and newer gpu's.
 
Borealis said:
For what you've got, the 650W Platinum is fine. If you go to an i7 and 1080Ti, it'll also be fine. The 1070 is definitely a mainstream card. The 1080Ti is the top end, with the 1080 being high-end. The latest generation of Nvidia GPUs are more effiecient the the GTX 900 series.
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Yeah I noticed that, I went from a GTX 970 to a GTX 1070 and the difference is stunning! Not even one game goes under 65 fps unless I start to downscale. I was also fed up with the slower vram they built in but I can say nothing negative except the coil whining which will probably come from the poor psu I still have. I returned my GTX 1070 4 times but it always made the same noise. So I checked the psu and found out that corsair has become a shady company as it seems...

Oh nice I considered the 1070 to be a low level card given the fast progress we have these days :)

Also very nice that I can upgrade without having any worries thanks!
 
Minibiker said:
My old man has the same CPU as you and its a great performer... Looks like you got a great system there and now with a great PSU will be immense...

I've just this second been fiddling with the cables in my wife's build to tidy it up a bit :p
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Haha nice! I really want my cables to be all tidy same goes for my apartment I have a little tick :D

Maybe I will upgrade to watercooling on my cpu so I can get out the big cooler I have now. I can't put more RAM in there because of the cooler...

But everything step by step, when it comes to watercooling I'm completly lost^^
 
Minibiker said:
I would love to try watercooling but think I'll struggle... if I was to install watercooling I think I'd go for one of the A120 cool I kits..
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If I will move on to "liquid cooling" (as the pro's call it haha), I will invest 200-300€ because I can't let my system die if something is leaking...
 
EsaT said:
Yep, 1070 is basically top of mainstream.
Reference card consumes ~150W at maximum. Though factory overclocked non-reference cards can draw towards 190W.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_Z/24.html
Same die based GTX 1080 has also quite nice power consumption, but Titans/1080 Tis etc use lot bigger GP102 chip and have higher consumption.

Ryzen is very good when it comes to power consumption.
At stock worst case consumption is in class of 115W which is comparable to Intel's Kaby Lake with half the cores&threads:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-7900x-skylake-x,5092-10.html
In Blender (3D rendering) it actually beats Kaby Lake i7 7700k in energy efficiency.

Vega is AMD's first actually new GPU architecture in half dozen years.
Fury cards, this years Polaris cards etc have all been tweaks and rehashes of same old architecture.
They surely must have known that bad energy efficiency in gaming load has prevented them from competing in performance costing them market share.
So I would expect Vega's architecture to have finally comparable energy efficiency to Nvidia cards.
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Oh nice maybe in 2-3 years I will switch to a full AMD setup, hopefully they'll knock intel and nvidia out when it comes to power consumption.
 
Borealis said:
With Ryzen, AMD have given Intel a kick up the backside and brought some competition to the market. That's why Intel is releasing Coffeelake earlier than planned and has expanded the X299 CPU range. Since 2011/12, the AMD CPUs available were pretty poor. The FX-8 series ran hot, hammered motherboard VRMs and couldn't really match an i5/i7 in performance. Ryzen is a massive improvement and it's energy efficient too.

It's only really some of the cheaper Corsair PSUs that I'd be wary of. They're AIOs are pretty good. The VS, CX and CXM series PSUs have cheaper internals, which is why we don't recommend them.
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I didn't know that the FX-8 were that bad, well at least they learned something from it.

Ah I see so it really comes down to the specific model. Still I'll wait for the next or next next generations of cpu's and gpu's to be released, upgrading doesn't make much sense now.
 
EsaT said:
They were worser than that.
Very weak single core performance falling big amount behind Intel in many games when tested at CPU limited settings (Xbit-labs used those) instead of GPU limited settings.
And then sucking lots of power under full load while still struggling to match Intel's top end quad cores:
http://techreport.com/review/24879/intel-core-i7-4770k-and-4950hq-haswell-processors-reviewed/7

Bulldozer actually had worser IPC (per clock performance) than its predecessor.
Just like eventually completely failed NetBurst/Pentium 4 architecture of Intel...
Which let AMD and Athlon 64 (also designed by Jim Keller) to similar performance and power efficiency lead as Intel gained after ditching that failed architecture while AMD screwed up with Faildozer.

Now Ryzen has 52% higher IPC than last Bulldozer rehashes making it quite similar as Intel's jump from Pentium 4 to Core 2.
Only thing keeping Ryzen from challenging Intel CPUs in every single area is manufacturing process limiting max clocks.
Power consumption wise boost/turbo clocks for couple cores could easily be past 4.5 GHz.
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Well we'll see what the future will bring.

I'm looking forward to some really out of space cpu's in the next 2 years :)
 
Got my psu today, the noise reduction is incredible. I can hardly hear my setup now. It's also pretty awesome that the psu has an eq-switch, my corsair had non of that and the cable management is a dream with the modular one.

Thank you for suggesting me this psu!

 
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