I need help

Murphsss · 23 Jun 2022 at 19:49

Hi there guys so I need to upgrade my motherboard because I’m upgrading my case and the pc I have is a acer nitro n50 610 (a prebuild) so they’ve added a motherboard which doesn’t let me swap out it to another case as it has this extended bit as u can see in the photo at the top of the board so this stops me from using it in another case so I need help picking a cheap new motherboard what has a 10th gen cpu socket, a m.2 and DDR4 RAM and supports a 10th gen cpu please Please help me with this

Murphsss · 23 Jun 2022 at 21:03

Tetras said:
Fortunately, 10th gen motherboards are pretty plentiful. What kind of CPU is it? M-ATX or ATX?

At the midrange I'd consider something like the MSI B560 Tomahawk (around £130), the B560M Pro-VDH and Bazooka (around £100) also seemed to perform well in the testing linked below.

At the lower-end you need to be more careful, especially if you're using a high-end CPU. You can see why here and here.

I don’t really know the CPU size but it’s a intel i5 10400F (10th gen). Thanks

Murphsss · 23 Jun 2022 at 21:35

Tetras said:
If you mean: M-ATX or ATX, it refers to the motherboard size, since it will need to fit in your case

Ok I have a micro ATX board and recently bought a micro ATX case. Thanks

Murphsss · 24 Jun 2022 at 23:57

Tetras said:
In that case (pun intended), I'd go with mickyflinn's suggestion.

There is also the Aorus Elite, which is £80 (no wifi), but the only review I could find was eteknix and I didn't notice any thermal testing.

Ok cool i also I don’t know if I’ll need a new power supply, how would I know if it would work all ok? Thanks

Murphsss · 25 Jun 2022 at 10:55

Tetras said:
Does your power supply have a 4/8 pin connector for the CPU power and a 24 pin connector for the motherboard power? From your motherboard, it looks like it might be a proprietary (non-standard) design.

Yeah I’m going to need a new power supply, could you recommend me any cheap ones as I’m on a budget here. Thanks

Murphsss · 25 Jun 2022 at 11:30

mickyflinn said:
What graphics card do you have or plan on getting as this will determine wattage ?

I already have my graphics card, it’s a Nvidia GTX 1660 super. Thanks

Murphsss · 25 Jun 2022 at 11:46

mickyflinn said:
A decent 550w to 650w is enough but you may want to get a bigger wattage to cover you for future upgrades.

What case do you have ?

This is on offer

NZXT C-Series C650 650W 80+ Gold Fully-Modular Power Supply | OcUK

Order NZXT C-Series C650 650W 80+ Gold Fully-Modular Power Supply now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

I probably won’t upgrade my GPU as I don’t have lots of money so anything what supports it will do and this is my new case what I have.

Murphsss · 25 Jun 2022 at 11:57

mickyflinn said:
Nice

Well the psu i reccomened should fit as its a standard size, has 10 year warranty , fully modular, and on offer.

Ok so the Power supply and the motherboard you suggested would all work ok? Thanks

Murphsss · 25 Jun 2022 at 12:01

mickyflinn said:
Yept

Can you give me the name of the case and I'll just check everything fits.

Yeah ok sure I’ll send the link to it

CiT Flash Gaming Matx Case 4x ARGB Fans Tempered Glass Front and Side Panels EPE

The new CiT Flash is an Micro-ATX PC gaming case with the perfect balance of looks and functionality.

www.awd-it.co.uk

Murphsss · 25 Jun 2022 at 12:27

mickyflinn said:
Cool alls well.

Last question as you on a budget do you need Wi-Fi if not get the aourus which will save you £25.

Will the case work all fine? And what do you mean by do I need wifi?

Murphsss · 25 Jun 2022 at 12:33

mickyflinn said:
Yes .

Do you want Wi-Fi on the motherboard to connect to the internet or will you be using a cable from your router ?

If you don't need Wi-Fi you can get a cheaper motherboard as I mentioned before.

Oh right yeah I need wifi as my router is not close to my pc, could I just go for the cheaper motherboard and use a wifi dongle? Thanks

Murphsss · 25 Jun 2022 at 12:43

mickyflinn said:
You could get a cheap motherboard and a Wi-Fi dongle if you want, I have put both motherboards below so take your pick.

My basket at OcUK:

1 x MSI MAG B560M Mortar WIFI (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-36Q-MS) = £104.99

1 x Gigabyte B560M Aorus Elite (Socket LGA 1200) Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-5AC-GI) = £79.99

1 x NZXT C-Series C650 650W 80+ Gold Fully-Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-1AL-NX) = £59.99

Total: £256.07 (includes delivery: £11.10)

Ok great thank you I will probably go with the cheaper motherboard and use a wifi dongle to save some money and then get the NZXT power supply, just one more again will this all definitely work and fit in my new case and work with my cpu and gpu I have at the moment which is a Intel I5 - 10400F (10th gen) and a Nvidia GTX 1660 super. Thanks

Murphsss · 25 Jun 2022 at 12:50

mickyflinn said:
Yes to best of my knowledge I have checked and checked again but you could always wait for a second confirmation from another forum member.

@Tetras knows his stuff .

Yeah ok cool I believe ya, Thank you for your help and I will let you know in the future when it’s all done and will send a a pic. Thank you for all of your help

Murphsss · 25 Jun 2022 at 13:58

Tetras said:
Onboard wifi is usually better than a cheap USB dongle (faster and more reliable), but it's up to you. If you already have one that works fine then it makes sense, I guess.

To be specific about compatibility:
- The 10400F is a socket 1200 CPU and the motherboards are socket 1200 (B560M Mortar, B560 Aorus Elite).
- The motherboards are Micro-ATX, the case is Micro-ATX.
- The PSU is ATX, the case takes an ATX PSU.

Ok great so everything will fit for me yeah?

Murphsss · 25 Jun 2022 at 14:06

Tetras said:
Yup, should be no problems, as far as I can see.

How are you going to cool the CPU?

I have a fan for it what fits fine, it’s the stock intel one so not the best but I will upgrade in the future

Murphsss · 26 Jun 2022 at 08:45

Tetras said:
Yup, should be no problems, as far as I can see.

How are you going to cool the CPU?

Hi there again just wondering is there any cheaper motherboard I could get or any cheaper power supply please. Thanks

Murphsss · 26 Jun 2022 at 15:48

Tetras said:
Well, you could buy an H510 motherboard like the MSI H510M-A for £60 (I think there are a few slightly cheaper ones), but the problem is that you'll lessen the potential for future upgrades, because they have weaker VRMs with no heatsinks and only support 2 dimms, with just 1 m.2 slot.

The PSU is the same, if you go much cheaper you start getting sleeve bearing fans, Chinese capacitors, 3 or 5 year warranties and it might struggle if you upgrade the graphics card. I think that would be a false economy in the longer-term.

Ok no worries, I’ll probably just keep to the NZXT PSU and get a cheaper MB. Thanks

Murphsss · 30 Jun 2022 at 17:39

Tetras said:
I forgot to mention that H510 also can't overclock the memory. On an i5-10400 that will limit you to DDR4-2666 Mhz. You can install faster memory, it just won't run at that speed.

Wait what do you mean by this?

Murphsss · 30 Jun 2022 at 18:22

Tetras said:
The i5-10400 has a stock memory speed of 2666 and that is the fastest speed H510 will support, with this CPU. If you install e.g. 3200 memory, it will still run at 2666.

With B560, you can run at whatever memory speed you want.

Ahhh ok i see what you mean now, Since I'm on a budget here what do you think of the Gigabyte B560M Aorus Elite (Socket LGA 1200) Micro ATX Motherboard you suggested to me as this one is only £79.99 so quite cheap compared to the other MSI one u suggested to me. Thanks

Murphsss · 30 Jun 2022 at 18:56

Tetras said:
It looks decent, but I haven't seen any reviews.

Oh right ok I see, would it be a good option since it's cheaper and that I'm on a budget? Thanks

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