I need some advice wifi/ethernet/lan

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Hi,

I know little about all this, I currently have Virgin BB with a SuperHub 3.0



I have an ethernet cable running upstairs into a switch that I just realized is only 100mbps and not gigabit so I have ordered a gigabit one. From the switch I have Xbone/PC/TV connected, TV is a KS8000 and apparently its only 100mbps so is actually better with wifi!!?!?! However Wifi is pretty rubbish upstairs especially with doors closed.

Does such a device exist that will plug into my soon to be installed gigabit switch and output gigabit or close too wifi so its literally next to the TV? . I am aware of the plug in wifi extenders but not sure if that would work as well.

Basically trying to be able to stream full fat 4k via Plex/Emby as its just a stuttering mess at the minute. Im using MPC-BE and MadVR to play direct from PC but would like the ability to stream/ play elsewhere.

Hope this makes sense haha.

Thanks,
Sean
 
100Mbps should be more than enough even for 4K streaming.

If you want to add wireless to your Gigabit switch you'll need a wireless access point (could be a wireless router configured as one).
 
As said a WiFi Access point. Popular ones around here and a lot of people around the Internet are Ubiquiti Unifi AP AC Lite or LR. You need to spend serious money to get anywhere near Gigabit speeds and even then it will depend on Client support which is pretty sparse but a decent AP's like the 2 i mentioned with easily stream several 4k streams with 100% signal.

And you thought right WiFi extenders are trash.

https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-lite/ £70~
https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-lr/ £90~
or if you want to splash the cash and have clients that support 3x3 mimo
https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-pro/ £120~
 
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bremen1874 said:
100Mbps should be more than enough even for 4K streaming.

If you want to add wireless to your Gigabit switch you'll need a wireless access point (could be a wireless router configured as one).
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It is fine for 4k stream via Netlfix/Amazon but is unplayable on a remux from streamed from the PC. http://www.jell.yfish.us/ For Ultra HD (4K) Videos, it looks like the new BD spec calls for 10-Bit H.265 encoding and allows for a maximum bitrate of 128 Mbps. I'm not entirely sure whether this is just for video, audio and video combined, or the total allowable data transfer rate (audio, video, java, etc). It's probably a safe bet that, if your media player can play the 140 Mbps Jellyfish File, you should be good to go for UHD rips.

I can only assume this is what is happening? I mean they are unwatchable via stream it stutters every few seconds, this is with HEVC remux files.

I will have a look at those WiFi AP, I knew such a thing was bound to exist my google fu let me down haha.

Thanks,
Sean
 
Should be fine with a cable. It'll be a stable full speed connection, wireless tends to fluctuate a bit.

-edit, just seen your new post.

I'd connect a gigabit enabled player to the TV and use that..
 
bledd said:
Should be fine with a cable. It'll be a stable full speed connection, wireless tends to fluctuate a bit.

-edit, just seen your new post.

I'd connect a gigabit enabled player to the TV and use that..
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Yeah that's what I thought, I even tried Plex on the Xbone but now realize that would also be limited by my current 100mbps switch even though the Xbone S apparently has a gigabit in it.

So am I right in saying 100mbps is not enough for 4K HEVC Remux? Those wifi APs look like the solution assuming the TVs built in wifi can do at least 128mbps right??

Thanks again,
Sean
 
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I've never used any muxing. I just read files directly from my NAS.

I only use WiFi for laptops, Sonos and phones.
 
It seems TV manufacturers are only putting in 100Mbit ports on their new TVs because a lot of them share a bus or something and so cant even get close to that speed. On my Sony XE9005 this is definitely the case so I did a little (really scientific test).

Got myself a little HEVC h265 4K HDR rip that has an overall bit rate of 41.7Mbps. I used the cast to feature within Windows to cast the video to the the TV (you could just use the built in video app as well as this is what it automatically plays back via, but VLC seems to struggle with h265 files and Plex will require it to be Transcoded), when on ethernet Windows Task manager showed about 55Mbps network utilization on the casting service when stuttering started occurring in the playback. I got the same experience when connected to 2.4Ghz Wifi, but on 5Ghz Wifi I often saw Task Manager show 80-90Mbps network usage on this service and stuttering disappeared.

So if the TV has AC then a decent AC router close to the TV would most likely provide the best experience.
 
Just a thought not sure how it works. Am I sending the video/data from the PC back to the superhub via the switch or is it going from PC to switch back out to the TV? If its going all the way back the superhub and back again in the same ethernet cable then am I essentially halving the 100mpbs speed to start with?? Im probably totally wrong haha but other people dont seem to be having a problem, hopefully I wont once the gigabit switch is installed tomorrow.
 
PC to Switch to TV as long as both the PC and the TV are connected to the switch. If you really wanted to try a clean test give both devices a static IP in the same subnet and then connect them directly to each other with a normal patch lead (they should both be auto sensing) which will give you the best speed you could conceivably get (this is really overkill though considering how little difference having that switch in place in this type of environment would have anyway :))
 
pepp77 said:
PC to Switch to TV as long as both the PC and the TV are connected to the switch. If you really wanted to try a clean test give both devices a static IP in the same subnet and then connect them directly to each other with a normal patch lead (they should both be auto sensing) which will give you the best speed you could conceivably get (this is really overkill though considering how little difference having that switch in place in this type of environment would have anyway :))
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Yeah makes sense. I have checked and the TV does indeed support AC wifi ( I had no idea that was even a thing lol) as does my LG G6. Seems a AC Access point would be the next step! #

Thanks,
Sean
 
bledd said:
This is insanity, why do they have 100mbit ports ? :Eek:
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Might be a situation similar to a raspberry pi and alluded too in a post above in that the Network port shares the same data bus as the USB 2 port/s.
 
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100mbit wired on the KS8000 is better than having a WiFi access point right next to the TV ;)

The in-built wifi is rather poor in the Sammy.
 
Replace the switch upstairs with a Ubiquiti AirCube AC, they cost around £60 and give you 4 port gigabit switch and wireless AC access point all in one.
 
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