i5 2500k / i7 2600k video capture in gaming?

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(Posted here as well as CPU thread because I figured it fit both categories)

I'm looking to buy a new PC at christmas. My current PC can just about handle current high end games in low settings so the main reason I want to squander a lot of my precious student money on a new PC is because I want to be able to film what I do with FRAPS.

My current processor is some weak dual core. I can't film any game without a noticeable drop in performance so it's important I get a significant improvement. I've settled with Intel.

My friend who plays the same game as me (poorly optimized / heavily demanding on the processor) is rocking an i7 2600k 8gb ram ATI 6970 1tb 6gb/s HDD combo, and he can FRAPS with pretty much no problems. The question I ask is, as the i5 and i7 have almost the same specs, does anybody know if I will get any noticeable performance decrease if I FRAPS this very CPU intensive game using an overclocked i5 instead of an i7, with all other PC and game specs the same? It'd be great to save that £60 and know it makes no difference.

Also, if I were to get an i5 and found a couple of issues with frapsing would it help to get a Solid State drive and put either fraps or my game into that?

Finally, in your own opinions, overall is it worth the £60 extra for an i7?

Cheers
 
For what its worth, I've got an i5 at stock and have no problems recording with fraps.

The framerate dips a little as you'd expect, but works a charm for me.

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~>Dg<~ said:
its how you set fraps up even on dualcore if you do it right it will be fine .
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I really can't agree with this. Ive tried changing the fraps settings in pretty much every way i can and have never had a frame rate that allows me to play to even half my ability. some are better than others but none are good enough.
 
joeb said:
I really can't agree with this. Ive tried changing the fraps settings in pretty much every way i can and have never had a frame rate that allows me to play to even half my ability. some are better than others but none are good enough.
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You could just buy a capture device? I know most are made for consoles but I think they can support VGA/DVI too, meaning you can capture with no hit in performance :)

EDIT: Oh actually reading up on them it seems like they need a 3rd party PC to do the decoding?! Why do they cost so much then?!!! :p You could at least use another PC or laptop to handle the recording while your PC uses all of its power to play the game!
 
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The i5 2500k is absolutely fine for recording with FRAPs, but that's not the only thing FRAPs relies on.

If you're recording to a mechanical hard drive, ensure it's quick enough to deal with the large files FRAPs throws around. Google what hard drive you've got and compare speeds to those that FRAPs recommends (you may need to search through a couple of forums to find what you're after).

And the bonus of the i7 is the hyperthreading which gives a huge bonus when it comes to rendering and encoding video files, but the i5 doesn't exactly struggle!
 
For what its worth when i was putting a pc together for doing fraps i found what made the biggest difference for me was running the game on my SSD, and recording onto my Samsung F3. After i did that it removed any stutter i had and could record all day long no problem.

I cant really comment on what cpu would better, But afaik the I7 will be faster at encoding the video once you have recorded it right?
 
HHs said:
For what its worth when i was putting a pc together for doing fraps i found what made the biggest difference for me was running the game on my SSD, and recording onto my Samsung F3. After i did that it removed any stutter i had and could record all day long no problem.

I cant really comment on what cpu would better, But afaik the I7 will be faster at encoding the video once you have recorded it right?
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I dont currently plan to get an SSD, but if I did what should I put on it for best results: Windows, the game, or fraps? Or a combination?

And I'd imagine you're right about the encoding but I cant really justify £60 just to wait a little less time when encoding.
 
joeb said:
I dont currently plan to get an SSD, but if I did what should I put on it for best results: Windows, the game, or fraps? Or a combination?

And I'd imagine you're right about the encoding but I cant really justify £60 just to wait a little less time when encoding.
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I have OS and game on SSD, and fraps the videos onto the larger samsung f3.

I would go with the i5 and overclock it personally :cool:
 
HHs said:
I have OS and game on SSD, and fraps the videos onto the larger samsung f3.

I would go with the i5 and overclock it personally :cool:
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I'm planning to get this I imagine it serves well enough for recording?

If I were to get an i5, and then an SSD if the recording wasn't as good as it could be, then it should be a decent compromise, i would think? The price difference between an i7 instead of an i5 and an i5 with SSD are pretty much non-existant.
 
joeb said:
I'm planning to get this I imagine it serves well enough for recording?

If I were to get an i5, and then an SSD if the recording wasn't as good as it could be, then it should be a decent compromise, i would think? The price difference between an i7 instead of an i5 and an i5 with SSD are pretty much non-existant.
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I would say so yeah, Thats sata III so i couldnt get that as my motherboard doesnt support it, I run this and its really good. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-082-SA&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=1279

Afaik the only real difference performace wise between the I5 and I7 is the I7 is better at encoding, But for gaming the i5 can be better because of the faster clock speeds.
 
joeb said:
But the i7 has the better clock speed :confused: typo? or am I getting confused
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At stock, yes, however the turbo boost on the i5 automatically "overclocks" it when under heavy use.

Take this with a pinch of salt, but the generalisation is that i5 = gaming, i7 = encoding. Obviously there's a million and one factors to affect things, but to sum it up simply, I would use that expression.
 
bJN said:
At stock, yes, however the turbo boost on the i5 automatically "overclocks" it when under heavy use.

Take this with a pinch of salt, but the generalisation is that i5 = gaming, i7 = encoding. Obviously there's a million and one factors to affect things, but to sum it up simply, I would use that expression.
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yeah sorry i didnt explain it properly, Thanks :D
 
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