I5-7400 worth it over the I3-7100?

GreenMint · 19 Oct 2017 at 14:02

Hi, just looking at a spec on the OcUK custom built home pcs for my brother, looking for building a PC for most home office stuff and Football Manager, he might add a dedicated graphics card in the future, but looking at there here & now it'll be for standard home/office use and playing that one game.

Just thinking it might be better to save about £90 on the upgrade CPU cost where we might not really see any discernible day to day difference?

malachi · 19 Oct 2017 at 14:31

Yes, if you are playing Football Manager then you will that extra CPU power for that giant database of a game.

KillBoY_UK · 19 Oct 2017 at 14:36

why not a i3 8100 system ?

orbitalwalsh · 19 Oct 2017 at 14:37

yes! nothing worse when the older versions hung when a cross comes in........ pmsl

or above ^^^^^^

but b350 boards arent out and z370 are £115 +

GreenMint · 19 Oct 2017 at 14:44

KillBoY_UK said:
why not a i3 8100 system ?

Purely going on whats in the configurator, and trying to not go over £600, don't have the time to build one for him so preconfigured with limited options is the best I can do for him right now.

Journey · 19 Oct 2017 at 14:55

GreenMint said:
Purely going on whats in the configurator, and trying to not go over £600, don't have the time to build one for him so preconfigured with limited options is the best I can do for him right now.

Call them, and ask them to do a spec for you.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Intel Core i3-8100 3.6GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail= £109.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Red (CMK8GX4M2B3000C1= £89.99
1 x Asrock Z370 Pro4 Intel Z370 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £109.99
1 x Bitfenix Nova Midi Tower Case - Black= £26.99
1 x Kolink KL-400 400W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply= £30.95
1 x Kingston 120GB SSDNow UV400 Drive SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" (7mm height) Solid State Hard Drive - (SUV400S37/1= £49.99

Total: £430.20
(includes shipping: £12.30)

Bit harsh doing him out of a more modern CPU, and board for a few minutes on the phone.

EDIT: I just realised you probably don't need the SSD!

GreenMint · 19 Oct 2017 at 14:59

I'll give them a call, thanks!

Cheeky git!!

Journey · 19 Oct 2017 at 15:29

GreenMint said:
I'll give them a call, thanks!

Cheeky git!!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

GreenMint · 19 Oct 2017 at 16:27

just put an email into Damin (I think, couldn't get his name fully!! Any mods/employees able to give me an email address incase I'm wrong?

)

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 19 Oct 2017 at 16:45

I would probably upspec the PSU a bit to something like CXM450,etc,especially if your brother decides to upgrade the CPU and put in a decentish card.

GreenMint · 19 Oct 2017 at 17:07

I can't see him ever upgrading the cpu, he's not the typical kind of user you get on here, he's still currently running an E5100 Vista PC from about 2008! This'll be there for 6 years + and I really doubt hell even ho the graphics card route!

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 19 Oct 2017 at 17:13

GreenMint said:
I can't see him ever upgrading the cpu, he's not the typical kind of user you get on here, he's still currently running an E5100 Vista PC from about 2008! This'll be there for 6 years + and I really doubt hell even ho the graphics card route!

Fair enough but if does decide to upgrade the card,its better to have a better quality PSU. AFAIK,Klolink has made some solid cheap PSUs,but also some with hit and miss component quality. Spending another £15 to £20 its worth it especially if he keeps the system that long since the capacitor quality will be better and that is what usually degrades over time. IIRC,the CX and CXM series have 5 year warranties too.

pastymuncher · 19 Oct 2017 at 18:44

Journey said:
Call them, and ask them to do a spec for you.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Intel Core i3-8100 3.6GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail= £109.99

1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Red (CMK8GX4M2B3000C1= £89.99

1 x Asrock Z370 Pro4 Intel Z370 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £109.99

1 x Bitfenix Nova Midi Tower Case - Black= £26.99

1 x Kolink KL-400 400W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply= £30.95

1 x Kingston 120GB SSDNow UV400 Drive SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" (7mm height) Solid State Hard Drive - (SUV400S37/1= £49.99

Total: £430.20
(includes shipping: £12.30)

Bit harsh doing him out of a more modern CPU, and board for a few minutes on the phone.

EDIT: I just realised you probably don't need the SSD!

That psu is crap. It only has 288w on the 12v rail plus nobody knows much about them at all.

Journey · 19 Oct 2017 at 18:58

pastymuncher said:
That psu is crap. It only has 288w on the 12v rail plus nobody knows much about them at all.

Ok, and is 288w not enough for an i3? I'll put this one out to the OCUK staff, you probably sell hundreds of these in office style systems, what is the RMA rate of the item please? @Gibbo will have the return rates since he will work closely with the RMA team being the chief-purchaser bloke.

P4Clock · 19 Oct 2017 at 19:11

Ryzen??

1400 and a b350 board would be the same cost as the i3 and board. But 4 more threads and overclocking capable

P4Clock · 19 Oct 2017 at 19:20

pastymuncher said:
That psu is crap. It only has 288w on the 12v rail plus nobody knows much about them at all.

400w would run this system easy. But the quality of the unit could come into question

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 19 Oct 2017 at 19:56

P4Clock said:
Ryzen??

1400 and a b350 board would be the same cost as the i3 and board. But 4 more threads and overclocking capable

I think the lack of dGPU is the issue here!

Journey · 19 Oct 2017 at 20:03

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I think the lack of dGPU is the issue here!

For most people it seems, they prefer not to read the opening post, and just get stuck in.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 19 Oct 2017 at 20:07

Journey said:
For most people it seems, they prefer not to read the opening post, and just get stuck in.

Its easy to do I suppose!! Come on AMD,get Raven Ridge out! Intel's secret weapon against Ryzen. Not more MHZ,or more cores,its the cool glow of the Intel® UHD Graphics 630 integrated graphics!! :cool:

Journey · 19 Oct 2017 at 20:13

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Its easy to do I suppose!! Come on AMD,get Raven Ridge out! Intel's secret weapon against Ryzen. Not more MHZ,or more cores,its the cool glow of the Intel® UHD Graphics 630 integrated graphics!!

Next year for Desktop APU's, Q1 '18 right around the Zen refresh, although the mobile APU's should give a decent idea of what to expect. It's going to be a game changer in the lower end market, that's for sure, a 4c/8t part with a Vega GPU equal to that of an RX460 built in, for the price of a low end i5.