i5 or i7 ??

I'm not familiar with MSI Z97 bios, but can view the manual and come up with some suggestions :) .

I do go manual settings for several settings as "Auto" may not be optimal.

For example on my mobo if you leave cache voltage "Auto", as you raise cache ratio higher than stock it automatically raises voltage. My stock cache voltage with stock ratio on "auto" is 1.10V but it will rise to 1.20V (:eek:) with higher cache ratio, this particular chip did not need extra voltage on cache. Some chips may react not so great with voltage increase, effecting the OC, so it is best to set bios as much as you require manually.

I tested manual vCore and found adaptive offset voltage worked the same and preferred that, so I would suggest you test what works best for you :) . These are the CPU/RAM related settings I change on my Asus Maximus VII Ranger from defaults:-

Ai Overclock Tuner [Auto]->[XMP]
1-Core Ratio Limit [Auto]->[49]
Min. CPU Cache Ratio [Auto]->[44]
Max. CPU Cache Ratio [Auto]->[44]
DRAM Command Rate [2]->[1]
VRM Spread Spectrum [Enabled]->[Disabled]
CPU Core Voltage [Auto]->[Adaptive Mode]
CPU Core Voltage Offset [Auto]->[0.001]
Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage [Auto]->[1.254]
CPU Cache Voltage [Auto]->[Manual Mode]
CPU Cache Voltage Override [Auto]->[1.100]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Auto]->[Disabled]
SVID Support [Auto]->[Disabled]
CPU C-States [Auto]->[Enabled]

As each silicon differs on properties plus what cooling we may have you can use mine as guide loosely speaking but not as exact settings you may require.

My current CPU I set profiles from 4.4GHz to 4.9GHz (0.1GHz increments), you should be able to get a "feel" for how the CPU is reacting to OC'ing from first few profiles. I use x264 first, as it only stress CPU and is a cool stress test, 4.9GHz 48 loops ~8hr run screenie. Note the dates and times on taskbar ;) , pretty much straight after I ran 4hrs RealBench Stress mode, this will load CPU/GPU so the whole system gets a workout, screenie. Then I did do some gaming and just before turning in set rig to fold, f@h CPU/GPU full power 17hrs screenie.

Those screenies were from when I had a Vapor-X 290X dumping air in case, now with the Fury X AIO exhausting it's heat out of case my temps are better by ~5C in RB/f@h.
 
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For the right price it would be worth it. Unfortunately the pricing on the 4790k is rather inflated, with it being the maximum those on 1150 can upgrade to.
 
Use the system graph and watch your cpu load while you do your usual activities, based on what you've said I don't think it'll be anywhere near taxed and you'll realise you can save your money.
 
i can game at 4k resolution easy with the gpu i have now.

My monitor is an Asus VG248QE......

That's a 1080p screen, are you talking about upsampling to 4k?

Oh i agree it wont do as well, but for what i play -( World of Warships ), its perfectly fine.

So your machine is `perfectly fine', but you want to splurge on an i7? I think you know the answer. ;)

As others have said though check the CPU usage. If all cores are being worked then you might benefit from the hyperthreading.
 
I'm not familiar with MSI Z97 bios, but can view the manual and come up with some suggestions :) .

I do go manual settings for several settings as "Auto" may not be optimal.

For example on my mobo if you leave cache voltage "Auto", as you raise cache ratio higher than stock it automatically raises voltage. My stock cache voltage with stock ratio on "auto" is 1.10V but it will rise to 1.20V (:eek:) with higher cache ratio, this particular chip did not need extra voltage on cache. Some chips may react not so great with voltage increase, effecting the OC, so it is best to set bios as much as you require manually.

I tested manual vCore and found adaptive offset voltage worked the same and preferred that, so I would suggest you test what works best for you :) . These are the CPU/RAM related settings I change on my Asus Maximus VII Ranger from defaults:-

Ai Overclock Tuner [Auto]->[XMP]
1-Core Ratio Limit [Auto]->[49]
Min. CPU Cache Ratio [Auto]->[44]
Max. CPU Cache Ratio [Auto]->[44]
DRAM Command Rate [2]->[1]
VRM Spread Spectrum [Enabled]->[Disabled]
CPU Core Voltage [Auto]->[Adaptive Mode]
CPU Core Voltage Offset [Auto]->[0.001]
Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage [Auto]->[1.254]
CPU Cache Voltage [Auto]->[Manual Mode]
CPU Cache Voltage Override [Auto]->[1.100]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Auto]->[Disabled]
SVID Support [Auto]->[Disabled]
CPU C-States [Auto]->[Enabled]

As each silicon differs on properties plus what cooling we may have you can use mine as guide loosely speaking but not as exact settings you may require.

My current CPU I set profiles from 4.4GHz to 4.9GHz (0.1GHz increments), you should be able to get a "feel" for how the CPU is reacting to OC'ing from first few profiles. I use x264 first, as it only stress CPU and is a cool stress test, 4.9GHz 48 loops ~8hr run screenie. Note the dates and times on taskbar ;) , pretty much straight after I ran 4hrs RealBench Stress mode, this will load CPU/GPU so the whole system gets a workout, screenie. Then I did do some gaming and just before turning in set rig to fold, f@h CPU/GPU full power 17hrs screenie.

Those screenies were from when I had a Vapor-X 290X dumping air in case, now with the Fury X AIO exhausting it's heat out of case my temps are better by ~5C in RB/f@h.

Thanks very much for taking the time to not only show me , but also advise me on what settings to try/use.
I have never really gotten into messing with cpu o/c as such and would always use auto as i dont know what im doing...lol
 
That's a 1080p screen, are you talking about upsampling to 4k?

Yes- upsampling.



So your machine is `perfectly fine', but you want to splurge on an i7? I think you know the answer. ;)

I was asking if it was worth doing, for gaming purposes

As others have said though check the CPU usage. If all cores are being worked then you might benefit from the hyperthreading.
 
Thanks very much for taking the time to not only show me , but also advise me on what settings to try/use.
I have never really gotten into messing with cpu o/c as such and would always use auto as i dont know what im doing...lol

No worries :) .

There are some good guides about on the web, for example der8auer is a pro-overclocker and does CPU binning at CaseKing.de (IIRC own OCuk), this is a good guide to ref/start off with done by him.
 
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