i7 4770k OC

Jonnygrunge · 8 Mar 2014 at 15:07

Hi all,
I think I may be one of the unlucky ones with a not so great chip! I have tried a number of things and it appears stable through AIDA but BSODs in BF4 after an hour or so stop 124!
Coming from an i7 920 this is all new tech! Anyway I am again running AIDA this time I have only manually set the Vcore to 1.200V and the Vin, this is set at 1.87V. I have left everything else to adaptive/auto Vcache, LLC, etc.
Is this advisable? Stress testing for an hour so far max temp has hit 74oC, although it appears to generally hover in the late 60s. This is under my Silverstone Tundra TD03. Ambient room temp is 24oC my "man cave" is in a converted conservatory!
I really want this system stable so I can start to properly game! I am really pining for my X58/i7 920 at the moment!, as it never gave me any hassle at 4GB rock solid for the past 4 years!
Any help gravely appreciated, rest of my build in sig.
One other thing running g.skill sniper RAM through XMP, runs at 9-9-9-24 2T at 1.25V is this ok for Haswell? I have upped the V to 1.35V with a CR of 1 and it appears ok!
Thanks in advance. Jonnygrunge.

DoneADougalOnSofa · 8 Mar 2014 at 15:14

Hi Johnny,
rather than type it all out again, check out this thread...

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18583729

There are some other settings you can tweak which could help.
But to start with, give your chip a bit more voltage- try 1.21, then 1.22 if no joy.

setter · 8 Mar 2014 at 15:16

For now id just set the ram to xmp and work on the cpu oc. 124 can be a sign of not enough vcore, quite often you can pass stability tests but playing a game will expose any issues with the oc.

Jonnygrunge · 8 Mar 2014 at 15:36

Would you guys recommend adjusting agent offset and cache, etc manually or leave at adaptive? Should I set LLC to high (8) or also leave a auto?

setter · 8 Mar 2014 at 15:39

Cache/uncore id leave at stock for the time being. System agent voltage should be fine left on auto, you only really need to up this if running 16gb of ram or overclocking ram.

Jonnygrunge · 8 Mar 2014 at 15:43

Will do! I will run AIDA this afternoon then BF4 tonight if I get the chance! Will the cache setting be OK at stock although set to adaptive and offset at auto! Meaning it will take more V if reqd. LLC OK at auto or should I set this high? To stabalise voltage levels at full load.

mmj_uk · 8 Mar 2014 at 16:23

Run Prime95 (small or large FFT) if you want to test stability properly.

murah · 8 Mar 2014 at 16:38

frankly BF4 is a pig, during beta/first release I had to reduce my clock to 4.4ghz, then a patch came out and it was stable at 4.6ghz, Then another patch came out and I had to go back to 4.4ghz again.. so you see don't use BF4 as your method to test it's an awful mess still in the back end of the game.

zx128k · 9 Mar 2014 at 01:38

Sound like the 4.6Ghz overclock is not stable.

Jester* · 9 Mar 2014 at 09:40

Just a thought but when running XMP is the voltage not meant to be 1.65?

Jonnygrunge · 9 Mar 2014 at 10:14

Not on the g.skill snipers, rated at 1.25V a 1600MHz setup by XMP! Might be the Haswell integrated memory controller does not like this low voltage?! May up it to 1.5V. However all the mem tests pass! A stop 124 error I thought pointed towards not enough V for the CPU! A real head scratcher.

mr griffin · 10 Mar 2014 at 10:56

I can give you the settings I have used if u like. Im no pro overclocker, but you should be able to get at least 4.4ghz out of it I would have thought quite easily.

Set up ur trust

Speirs · 10 Mar 2014 at 17:25

mr griffin said:
I can give you the settings I have used if u like. Im no pro overclocker, but you should be able to get at least 4.4ghz out of it I would have thought quite easily.

Set up ur trust

Can you let me look at your settings too please.

Cheers.

mr griffin · 10 Mar 2014 at 18:30

Sure. I'll be home about 8 so will post about 9pm with the settings I changed

mr griffin · 10 Mar 2014 at 20:41

Ok here goes.... These are the settings I am using on my system atm, obviously depending on how good or bad your cpu and cooling is will determine how high you can overclock. I am no expert overclocker, but to get a reasonable overclock you don't need to be. To be honest most of it is left alone and set on auto.

AI TWEAKER SETTINGS!

AI OVERCLOCK TUNER = MANUAL

CPU STRAP = AUTO

PLL SELECTION = AUTO

FILTER PLL = AUTO

BCLK FREQUENCY = 100.0

INITIAL BCLK FREQUENCY = AUTO

ASUS MULTI CORE ENHANCEMENT = AUTO

CPU CORE RATIO = SYNC ALL CORES

1-CORE RATIO LIMIT = 47 (your cpu could be better or worse so set for 44 and work up)

2-CORE RATIO LIMIT = 47
3-CORE RATIO LIMIT = 47
4-CORE RATIO LIMIT = 47

MIN CPU CACHE RATIO =46 (keep to same speed as cpu or lower if not stable, mine was not stable at 47 so lowered it to 46)

MAX CPU CACHE RATIO = 46

INTERNAL PLL OVERVOLTAGE = ENABLED

BCLK FREQUENCY DRAM FREQUENCY RATIO = AUTO

DRAM FREQUENCY = DDR3-2133(set this for whatever speed ur ram is or can run at when overclocked)

OC TUNER = AS IS

EPU POWER SAVING MODE - DISABLED

D RAM TIMING CONTROL 10-11-11-31-2 (again set whatever ur ram is rated at or you know can run at)

DIGI + POWER CONTROL = CPU POWER PHASE = OPTIMIZED

CPU POWER MANAGEMENT = I DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING

EXTREME OVERVOLTAGE = DISABLED

CPU CORE VOLTAGE = ADAPTIVE MODE

OFFSET MODE SIGN = +

CPU CORE VOLTAGE OFFSET = AUTO

ADDITIONAL TURBO MODE CPU CORE VOLTAGE = 1.300( my cpu needs 1.3v to be 4.7 stable, again yours could be better or worse)

TOTAL ADAPTIVE MODE CPU CORE VOLTAGE = 1.300

CPU CACHE VOLTAGE = AUTO

CPU SYSTEM AGENT VOLTAGE OFFSET MODE SIGN = +

CPU SYSTEM AGENT VOLTAGE OFFSET = AUTO

CPU ANALOG I/O VOLTAGE OFFSET MODE SIGN = +

CPU ANALOG I/O VOLTAGE OFFSET = AUTO

CPU DIGITAL I/O VOLTAGE OFFSET MODE SIGN = +

CPU DIGITAL I/O VOLTAGE OFFSET = AUTO

SVID CONTROL = DISABLED

CPU INPUT VOLTAGE =AUTO

DRAM VOLTAGE = 1.5300 (again set at what ur ram is rated at or can run at)

PCH CORE VOLTAGE = AUTO

PCH VLX VOLTAGE = AUTO

VTTDDR VOLTAGE = AUTO

DRAM CTRL REF VOLTAGE = AUTO

DRAM DATA REF VOLTAGE ON CHA = AUTO

D RAM DATA REF VOLTAGE ON CHB = AUTO

CLOCK CROSSING VBOOT = AUTO

CLOCK CROSSING RESET VOLTAGE = AUTO

CLOCK CROSSING VOLTAGE = AUTO

CPU SPREAD SPECTRUM = DISABLED

One other tip.... In windows where you can choose or customise a power plan. I found I had to choose BALANCED, because if set it to performance with the cpu set in the bios on adaptive mode, the cpu wouldn't throttle down or volt down when idle.

good luck guys I hope this is of some help

jh30uk · 10 Mar 2014 at 20:45

@ OP, if this is retail post the Batch # from the box, it its oem will its under the heatsink non so will not see it.

mr griffin · 10 Mar 2014 at 21:04

its retail cpu

where you open the box is right on the batch line so can't read it all i'm afraid, but I can read L336C Can't read the last 3 digits properly, could be 836 at a guess looking at the torn box

jh30uk · 10 Mar 2014 at 21:19

L336 is the batch (open other end next time).

Not same as my crap L324.

setter · 10 Mar 2014 at 23:22

L310B488 here, malaysian manufactured chip.

Jonnygrunge · 10 Mar 2014 at 23:31

mr griffin said:
Ok here goes.... These are the settings I am using on my system atm, obviously depending on how good or bad your cpu and cooling is will determine how high you can overclock. I am no expert overclocker, but to get a reasonable overclock you don't need to be. To be honest most of it is left alone and set on auto.

AI TWEAKER SETTINGS!

AI OVERCLOCK TUNER = MANUAL

CPU STRAP = AUTO

PLL SELECTION = AUTO

FILTER PLL = AUTO

BCLK FREQUENCY = 100.0

INITIAL BCLK FREQUENCY = AUTO

ASUS MULTI CORE ENHANCEMENT = AUTO

CPU CORE RATIO = SYNC ALL CORES

1-CORE RATIO LIMIT = 47 (your cpu could be better or worse so set for 44 and work up)

2-CORE RATIO LIMIT = 47
3-CORE RATIO LIMIT = 47
4-CORE RATIO LIMIT = 47

MIN CPU CACHE RATIO =46 (keep to same speed as cpu or lower if not stable, mine was not stable at 47 so lowered it to 46)

MAX CPU CACHE RATIO = 46

INTERNAL PLL OVERVOLTAGE = ENABLED

BCLK FREQUENCY DRAM FREQUENCY RATIO = AUTO

DRAM FREQUENCY = DDR3-2133(set this for whatever speed ur ram is or can run at when overclocked)

OC TUNER = AS IS

EPU POWER SAVING MODE - DISABLED

D RAM TIMING CONTROL 10-11-11-31-2 (again set whatever ur ram is rated at or you know can run at)

DIGI + POWER CONTROL = CPU POWER PHASE = OPTIMIZED

CPU POWER MANAGEMENT = I DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING

EXTREME OVERVOLTAGE = DISABLED

CPU CORE VOLTAGE = ADAPTIVE MODE

OFFSET MODE SIGN = +

CPU CORE VOLTAGE OFFSET = AUTO

ADDITIONAL TURBO MODE CPU CORE VOLTAGE = 1.300( my cpu needs 1.3v to be 4.7 stable, again yours could be better or worse)

TOTAL ADAPTIVE MODE CPU CORE VOLTAGE = 1.300

CPU CACHE VOLTAGE = AUTO

CPU SYSTEM AGENT VOLTAGE OFFSET MODE SIGN = +

CPU SYSTEM AGENT VOLTAGE OFFSET = AUTO

CPU ANALOG I/O VOLTAGE OFFSET MODE SIGN = +

CPU ANALOG I/O VOLTAGE OFFSET = AUTO

CPU DIGITAL I/O VOLTAGE OFFSET MODE SIGN = +

CPU DIGITAL I/O VOLTAGE OFFSET = AUTO

SVID CONTROL = DISABLED

CPU INPUT VOLTAGE =AUTO

DRAM VOLTAGE = 1.5300 (again set at what ur ram is rated at or can run at)

PCH CORE VOLTAGE = AUTO

PCH VLX VOLTAGE = AUTO

VTTDDR VOLTAGE = AUTO

DRAM CTRL REF VOLTAGE = AUTO

DRAM DATA REF VOLTAGE ON CHA = AUTO

D RAM DATA REF VOLTAGE ON CHB = AUTO

CLOCK CROSSING VBOOT = AUTO

CLOCK CROSSING RESET VOLTAGE = AUTO

CLOCK CROSSING VOLTAGE = AUTO

CPU SPREAD SPECTRUM = DISABLED

One other tip.... In windows where you can choose or customise a power plan. I found I had to choose BALANCED, because if set it to performance with the cpu set in the bios on adaptive mode, the cpu wouldn't throttle down or volt down when idle.

good luck guys I hope this is of some help

Appreciated, thanks for that! What are your temps like at that voltage and clock speed? It appears I have a bit of a lemon in my OEM 4770K! One of the unlucky ones! Bought it from OcUK too! Batch number is under my Tundra TD03!, I suspect it to be one of the Costa Rica POS! What I have discovered which might help is Voltage at stock sits at 1.024V, so this is not a good start! The better over clockers sit at 0.99V to 1.012V is what I have read, a lottery indeed!
Anyway after much hassle and tweaking, it passes IBT at 4.3GHz spiking in the early 80s, voltage required was 1.215V believe it or not! LLC at level 5. I don't really want to set voltage adaptively just yet as it will skyrocket in some of my stability tests, due to AVX! It seems to level out in AIDA low to mid 70s, which I am OK with, I do not have the performance/custom cooler of yourself good sir!, and would be reluctant to raise the voltage higher because of the additional thermals!
Looks like 4.3GHz is my ceiling for now! I suppose a 800MHz core over clock isn't too bad! If I OC the cache looking for the magical 1:1 ratio my VGA cards R9 280X TOPs, wont go into Crossfire, bomb out with a stop 116 error! I also read this is common if the GPUs are over clocked, which these are out the box! Just my luck again! I did read however that when the cache clock was down clocked to 3.5GHz it only resulted in a 1% drop in real world benchmark, quite remarkable! I think this CPU motherboard combo will be my shortest lived ever! When is the next Intel refresh? LOL!
I will run AIDA tonight, or Real Bench 2 stress tests, and let you know how they go! Help as always folks is very much appreciated, hopefully soon I can start gaming again very soon!