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i7-4790K (Devil's Canyon) to i7-5820K (Haswell-E)

Oriaz

Oriaz

Oriaz

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Hey guys,

I'm currently in the middle of building a new machine with hard-tube water-cooling etc etc. I want to make sure I take the time to do the transition from my existing (soft tube) watercooled setup to this new one properly, so I have decided to gradually get the components to build a new PC alongside my existing one.

I am currently at the motherboard and CPU stage, and wondering what to get. I definitely want to upgrade from DDR3 to DDR4 (currently have an Asus Maximus Ranger VII with 16GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR3), but I am unsure about the CPU.

I currently have a 2013 i7-4790K which performs very well, and still ranks very highly. I was looking at the X99 motherboards, and therefore a new CPU along the lines of the 5820K/6800K.

Main question is - is this worth it. Are the new Haswell-E CPU's better than the Devil's Canyon ones. Mine clocks at 4.00ghz standard, and the 5820K is 3.3ghz.

Or ... after all that, it is just better to get a Socket 1151 DDR4 Motherboard?

I hope that makes some kind of sense? Any help much appreciated!

Cheers, Ori
 
When you say your gradually get the components what sort of time frame are you looking at? Unless you got a good price on a 2nd hand 5820k I wouldn't bother with an focus on buying a 6850k.
 
All depends what you plan on doing in the future.

I made a similar move coming from a 4690k and decided on a 5820k in the end.

Ended up paring it with an Asus X99-E motherboard and 16GB Kingston 2666 memory (I originally had Corsair Dominiator but it just would not play ball with overclocking or using XMP settings so requested an RMA)

Currently sitting at 4.6GHz and it breezes through BF1 (my main game at the moment)

I went with x99 in the end as I don't plan on changing the motherboard or CPU for a while and expected that this would last me longer than a 6800k
 
Thanks guys,

Well, I already have the case and all of the water cooling components (tubes, fittings etc). I won't change the GFX card just yet (currently on a R9 390), but I would like to get it done sooner rather than later. The case is the Phanteks Enthoo Primo, and that thing takes up a LOOOT of space!! I think I just miss the motherboard and CPU to start putting things together.

JamesM - What you did sounds very similar to what I am wanting to do. My thinking for the X99 motherboard (and the Asus X99-E was one on my list) is that it would be more future-proof for future upgrades. I am also playing BF1 a lot (I worked on it :p) and WoW .. with WoW actually being the one that makes the components run hottest! I don't intend to change this again for at least 2-3 years.

But like I said, this is my first attempt at hard-tubing a watercooled system, so I'd like to be able to do it in my own time, without the rush to get my PC back up and running as fast as possible ... and therefore probably screw something up!

Cheers, Ori
 
I went from a 3770k to a 5930k and noticed no difference at all.
I'm also using the enthoo primo. It's a great case to work in as there's just so much space.
 
It's going to depend on your use really. I can't think of too many scenarios where 6 cores are actually noticeably beneficial over 4. I know somebody will say video editing and if you do a load of that it will be useful but if like me you only do a little then a well clocked i7 4790k will rip through it regardless. Somebody else will no doubt say but BF1 needs lots of cores. Maybe 140 fps isn't enough and 144 makes everything better.
 
Thanks all,

I don't really do video editing, but I do a lot of photo editing with Lightroom/Photoshop. Sometimes Lightroom grinds to a halt, so maybe the 6-cores would add some benefit in this scenario?

Thanks again,
Cheers, Ori
 
What do you do in Lightroom so that it grinds to a halt? I also have an i7 4790k and Lightroom and it's never been anything but ridiculously fast. I do have my data on an ssd though.
 
I am not sure, but the more edits I throw in, the worse it gets.

Primarily it's when I use the adjustment brush a lot. If I am making adjustments to different areas (foreground, background, specific objects), it just struggles more and more. Get to a point where my input on the graphics tablet takes 2-3 seconds to appear onscreen = almost unusable!!

Cheers!
 
Oriaz said:
I am not sure, but the more edits I throw in, the worse it gets.

Primarily it's when I use the adjustment brush a lot. If I am making adjustments to different areas (foreground, background, specific objects), it just struggles more and more. Get to a point where my input on the graphics tablet takes 2-3 seconds to appear onscreen = almost unusable!!

Cheers!
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That does seem a tad 'off' and yes unusable. Could it be anything else affecting inputs as I have the same setup and it just creams it.
 
It is a bit strange, and I've tried lots of things (turning of graphics card acceleration is apparently one fix, but not for me). Some times it's fine, others it just dies on me.

I am running Lightroom off an SSD, but the photos themselves are stored on much bigger SSHD. Perhaps 6-cores would make a difference, but I am not really expecting it to.

I "think" I have settled on the 5820K for now, which frees up a bit of extra cash (over the 6800K) to get a slightly better motherboard.

Cheers, Ori
 
Same as me then. Both Sony A99 and Nikon D750.

It's not a cpu issue then. Yours of course may be 'broken' in some way but there's most likely another issue going on somewhere that the best cpu in the world won't solve.
 
m@rty said:
I was considering moving from a 4790K to a 6700K, although i'm not sure if there would be any point?
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If 1-3%, 5% on a good day, (very good day) is worth it then... Save your money for someth My worthwhile. Buy a better cooler and increase that overclock!!
 
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