i7-6550X Or I9-9900k for gaming?

[eddywatson]

Hey guys
I currently have an i7-6950X (it wasn't cheap back in July 2016 lol)
I also have an MSI RTX 2080Ti... for gaming will I see any difference if I got the i9-9900k? will it be an upgrade?

also can the 9900k be a good CPU for video and image editing within photoshop and sony vegas?

Cheers

 

[CuriousTomCat]

Unless your games are stuttering due to low framerates, 90 fps looks the same as 900 fps in my opinion. It would be like changing a half full ink cartrige or paying to renew your MOT 6 months early, just for the fun of it.

 

[~>Dg<~]

as a gaming cpu the 9900k is about the same in most games as a 7990k or a little quicker. its not worth upgrading to from your cpu which is still very fast. even with unlimited budget its not worth changing for games.

 

[Maldoror]

What sort of clockspeed are you running the 6950X at? What resolution do you play games at? If you're playing at 4k, for example, I expect your 2080Ti is pinned at 99% load most of the time and a faster cpu won't help much (and the 6950X is still very capable indeed).

 

[eddywatson]

What sort of clockspeed are you running the 6950X at? What resolution do you play games at? If you're playing at 4k, for example, I expect your 2080Ti is pinned at 99% load most of the time and a faster cpu won't help much (and the 6950X is still very capable indeed).

it runs at stock speed 3.0Ghz no over clocking

 

[Maldoror]

it runs at stock speed 3.0Ghz no over clocking

Then it probably would bottleneck your 2080Ti in some games, especially if you're aiming for 144hz 1440p gameplay. But rather than buy a 9900K, it may be worth simply buying a decent AIO cooler (if you don't already have one) and overclocking the 6950X to, say, 4.5Ghz (which should be achievable without much work). A 4.5Ghz Broadwell 10-core is still a very good CPU. As for productivity apps, generally I'd think the extra two cores of the 6950X would be useful. An exception would be where a renderer can use the onboard integrated gpu of the 9900K to aid performance. There are a variety of articles about how on-chip GPUs can help in the latest builds of Premiere and other programs, e.g. some details here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3310-adobe-premiere-benchmarks-rendering-8700k-gpu-vs-ryzen (testing on 8700K on onboard gpu vs 7980XE).

 

[ilc72]

Then it probably would bottleneck your 2080Ti in some games, especially if you're aiming for 144hz 1440p gameplay. But rather than buy a 9900K, it may be worth simply buying a decent AIO cooler (if you don't already have one) and overclocking the 6950X to, say, 4.5Ghz (which should be achievable without much work). A 4.5Ghz Broadwell 10-core is still a very good CPU. As for productivity apps, generally I'd think the extra two cores of the 6950X would be useful. An exception would be where a renderer can use the onboard integrated gpu of the 9900K to aid performance. There are a variety of articles about how on-chip GPUs can help in the latest builds of Premiere and other programs, e.g. some details here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3310-adobe-premiere-benchmarks-rendering-8700k-gpu-vs-ryzen (testing on 8700K on onboard gpu vs 7980XE).

I would also check out the latest videos on Level1Techs on Adobe Premiere, they are really interesting in the fact they show that a dual system is better than a more expensive single system due to limitations in the Adobe Premiere architecture. Interestingly they also show how well the Vega 56/64 and Radeon VII cards perform in this type of configuration.

Links to the two-part video series are below:

https://youtu.be/96e9grnOTZE

https://youtu.be/60QDV_fHQuE

 

[darket]

Then it probably would bottleneck your 2080Ti in some games, especially if you're aiming for 144hz 1440p gameplay. But rather than buy a 9900K, it may be worth simply buying a decent AIO cooler (if you don't already have one) and overclocking the 6950X to, say, 4.5Ghz (which should be achievable without much work). A 4.5Ghz Broadwell 10-core is still a very good CPU..

You'd have to have a GOLDEN 6950x to get 4.5ghz , a more realistic overclock would be around 4.2ghz and you'd need a beefy AIO to keep the temps in check, if you can keep the core volts under 1.25 you should be ok with something like a H100 or similar , set a static core voltage of 1.20v and work from 4.0ghz and see how far you get. If you enable XMP be careful of the SA voltage as this ramps up quickly as you overclock , set it at a static 1.0v and go 0.1v either side of this if you experience memory instability. SA voltages over 1.3v can quickly degrade a Broadwel cpu.

 

[Maldoror]

You'd have to have a GOLDEN 6950x to get 4.5ghz , a more realistic overclock would be around 4.2ghz and you'd need a beefy AIO to keep the temps in check, if you can keep the core volts under 1.25 you should be ok with something like a H100 or similar , set a static core voltage of 1.20v and work from 4.0ghz and see how far you get. If you enable XMP be careful of the SA voltage as this ramps up quickly as you overclock , set it at a static 1.0v and go 0.1v either side of this if you experience memory instability. SA voltages over 1.3v can quickly degrade a Broadwel cpu.

I've only owned the chips either side of it, i.e. the 3960X and the 5960X, so I've never clocked up a 6950X. I see that both you and Kaap are often running a 6950X at 4.4Ghz, so assuming that this is with an excellent loop then the 4.2Ghz you mention probably indeed sounds more realistic as a baseline. In that case, it does come down to the gaming resolution a bit. I could imagine him seeing some decent gains on 1440p 144/165hz gaming with a 9900K@5ghz on some titles. But at 4K I'd imagine a 4.2Ghz 6950X would be plenty for keeping the bottleneck on the 2080Ti.

 

[CuriousTomCat]

Hey guys
I currently have an i7-6950X (it wasn't cheap back in July 2016 lol)
I also have an MSI RTX 2080Ti... for gaming will I see any difference if I got the i9-9900k? will it be an upgrade?

also can the 9900k be a good CPU for video and image editing within photoshop and sony vegas?

Cheers

Surely the time to upgrade is when you're framerates drop to an unsatisfactory level?

I dont understand why you're considering replacing such a recent and expensive CPU. CPUs last much longer that GPUs. It would be like asking if you will see any difference if you upgraded your 2080Ti to a newer card.