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i7 965, why so expensive???

mushtafa

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So, I'm currently running X58 chipset, Socket 1366, with an i7-950.
Just out of interest, I was looking to see if I could upgrade the CPU to anything better.
I came across the i7-965 at £700! I cannot click the link or add it to basket to see the details of it, but comparing it on the Intel site, it doesn't look much different. What am I missing here? I checked a competitor site, they're asking £870! Are these made of gold?

PS. I'm not looking to buy this!
 
Lots of sellers put the prices like that when they're out of stock. It's to save the hassle of relisting it should one become available.

The only worthwhile upgrade for you would be a hex core. The only issue with that is that unless you can find a cheap one it's probably cheaper to go with a different board and CPU, as you'll get more performance for less.
 
Old pricing that hasn't been revised. I'm guessing that somewhere in the £70 - £90 region would be a reasonable used price. 920's go for £45.
 
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Oh, I would have thought they would have reduced them to get them off the shelves. Surely most retailers would only have a few in stock, and if they keep them too long, no one would be running the socket, so no one would buy them at all?

Thanks for the 980/990 suggestion, I'll keep an eye out. It's not something I need, but a (cheapish) upgrade is always good.
 
I saw a 965 extreme in OCUK's B-Grade section for a tad under £700 not too long ago, I Really don't understand why someone would pay that much for a CPU when a newer gen CPU i.e 4770K can be had at half the price and out performs it
 
makes me feel good looking at this i got my bundle (965,rampage2,6gbram) for £130 XD, but as said there is little point getting any 1366 as none of the hex will be cheap. best to sell up and get a 4770k
 
mushtafa said:
Oh, I would have thought they would have reduced them to get them off the shelves. Surely most retailers would only have a few in stock, and if they keep them too long, no one would be running the socket, so no one would buy them at all?

Thanks for the 980/990 suggestion, I'll keep an eye out. It's not something I need, but a (cheapish) upgrade is always good.
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yeah seen a few 970s (also a hex core) and 980s going for under 300 on a popular auction site, cheaper than getting a socket 2011 mobo and hex core anyway and likely not that much slower
 
jamiehavok said:
yeah seen a few 970s (also a hex core) and 980s going for under 300 on a popular auction site, cheaper than getting a socket 2011 mobo and hex core anyway and likely not that much slower
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LOL you're joking right?

Sandybridge IPC absolutely wiped the floor with the 980x. I read an article comparing the 2600k to the 980x and the 2600k won in something like 22 out of 23 tests. Move onto Ivy and Haswell and it would be laughable.

AMD Piledriver in the right hands can put out a comparable IPC to the 9xx I7s. And for £80 you get a hex cored CPU, hence my advice above.
 
I wouldn't get one of the 1366 hex cores now a days as I've seen plenty of 3930K's below 300 quid.

For a 1366 Hex to be viable to me, it'd need to be around 150 quid.

I checked ALX Andy's post for lols, full of FUD as per.
Blatantly using IPC wrong as he doesn't understand it.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25504738&postcount=297

The 4.2GHZ core of Lynnfield is besting the 5.3GHZ PD core (The lynnfield cores are essentially bloomfield, assume SB is Lynnfield and bloomfield is SB-E) so, the IPC win is massively in favour to the i7 (Even though the intel core in question is an i5)

You can also see how much the IPC's improved with Sandy bridge due to Cat's 3.4GHZ core against Humbugs Bloomfield core being around the same, and Nkata's 5GHZ score is around the same as the 3.9GHZ score, so even if we are genuinely saying the i7, the IPC is massively in favour of it, rather than PD.

And the mentioning of SB knacking the Gulftown is somewhat hypocritical, given all his talk of old software with PD's, yet it's kosher to go back ever further when lower threaded applications were the norm, which would hamper Gulftown, but if you do that with PD (Even if the situation has improved, so had you reviewed PD when Gulftown was reviewed, it (Piledriver) would have been reviewed much worse ) then you're an Intel fanboy and the rest of it.
 
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That isn't comparable IPC, there's a MASSIVE difference in favour to the Intel for IPC (We're talking like ~25%)
That's comparable core for core performance, but that's different (And you didn't say that, you specifically said IPC) but the core for core would change depending on the clocks, etc (PD's got lower scaling due to the modules etc)

You don't understand IPC, that wasn't me taking it out of context, that is your lack of understanding showing through again. But that's fine, turn it around on me ;)
 
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ALXAndy said:
121.FX8320@5.0GHZ - nkata
119.i7 930 @ 3.9Ghz - humbug

Note the word comparable. 119 compared to 121 is comparable.

But it's not like you to take what I say in the wrong context, is it? nooo, course not, you don't do it every other day.
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Not comparable...
Humbug gets similar score with a lower clock, hence higher IPC. Huge swing towards Intel.

My i3 3225 scores 117, and that's @3.3Ghz.
 
Tonester0011 said:
Not comparable...
Humbug gets similar score with a lower clock, hence higher IPC. Huge swing towards Intel.

My i3 3225 scores 117, and that's @3.3Ghz.
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It should do, it's Ivy Bridge right?

Any way, I meant single threaded performance, so I put my hands up on this one.
 
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LOL you're joking right?

Sandybridge IPC absolutely wiped the floor with the 980x. I read an article comparing the 2600k to the 980x and the 2600k won in something like 22 out of 23 tests. Move onto Ivy and Haswell and it would be laughable.

AMD Piledriver in the right hands can put out a comparable IPC to the 9xx I7s. And for £80 you get a hex cored CPU, hence my advice above.
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must have been a gaming review or something silly like that. A 980X is faster than a 2600k in everything that uses 5 or more cores.
 
965 & 980XE are both still decent CPU's in everyday real world use you would notice no difference whatsoever VS socket 2011. They are still expensive because its the fully unlocked Extreme Edition!

I bought both these new on release they have lasted me 5 & 4 years I see no reason to upgrade either in the next year or so until Intel decide to release their next already obsolete upgrade :rolleyes:

OP just keep what you have I guarantee you its pointless to get anything else for now you would need new mobo+ram+cpu. Buy a new GPU & or SSD's instead unless you need a newer CPU for work or rendering at home keep what you have & save a lot of money Intel have just released marginal upgrades since the original Core i7 in 2008 they just sit on their very latest technology as they have no competition so just trickle out marginal 3-5% upgrades & or newer sockets as they make all their profits on new mobo/sockets & chipsets which obviously forces businesses to buy the matching CPU!! PC Gaming is a miniscule part of their business.
 
AWPC said:
965 & 980XE are both still decent CPU's in everyday real world use you would notice no difference whatsoever VS socket 2011. They are still expensive because its the fully unlocked Extreme Edition!

I bought both these new on release they have lasted me 5 & 4 years I see no reason to upgrade either in the next year or so until Intel decide to release their next already obsolete upgrade :rolleyes:

OP just keep what you have I guarantee you its pointless to get anything else for now you would need new mobo+ram+cpu. Buy a new GPU & or SSD's instead unless you need a newer CPU for work or rendering at home keep what you have & save a lot of money Intel have just released marginal upgrades since the original Core i7 in 2008 they just sit on their very latest technology as they have no competition so just trickle out marginal 3-5% upgrades & or newer sockets as they make all their profits on new mobo/sockets & chipsets which obviously forces businesses to buy the matching CPU!! PC Gaming is a miniscule part of their business.
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I'd like to know how well the 965/980X stacks up against the 4770k/4930k for gaming. We both have 780s ;) Name a couple of games, and boost clocks. We can compare directly :p
 
Tonester0011 said:
I'd like to know how well the 965/980X stacks up against the 4770k/4930k for gaming. We both have 780s ;) Name a couple of games, and boost clocks. We can compare directly :p
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The 980X should do a bit better not because of the extra cores but because they are better overclockers than the 965s.

For normal use with games though I don't notice much difference using my i7 975 or 980X compared to my 3930k, 3960X or 3970X.

I was having a bit of fun the other day by loading BF4 up on my i7 975/HD 5970s system. I just ran the i7 975 @3.46 and the HD 5970s @stock and had no problem with medium settings (could not go higher due to lack of vram) getting between 80 and 130fps out of the cards.
 
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