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So yea, I stumbled across this just now, it's an old vid (February this year). But it's got me a little riled up.

They have their own staff struggling to tell the difference between Xbox one, PS4 and PC... On 3 different games (well, one of them is a trick).

What they are saying is that the current consoles really are no less than a PC. Granted, if you're running on a mid range card at 1080p. It's just as good as console. But for those of us running top end. You'll agree no doubt, that it's like night and day.

Thoughts?
 
agnes said:
So yea, I stumbled across this just now, it's an old vid (February this year). But it's got me a little riled up.

They have their own staff struggling to tell the difference between Xbox one, PS4 and PC... On 3 different games (well, one of them is a trick).

What they are saying is that the current consoles really are no less than a PC. Granted, if you're running on a mid range card at 1080p. It's just as good as console. But for those of us running top end. You'll agree no doubt, that it's like night and day.

Thoughts?
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I vaguely remember when this came out.

I think most people disregarded it, based on the people testing not being particularly switched on about anything other than console gaming, and IIRC the one who had played PC before was pretty spot on about getting it.

I can take their point though, it would be a bit daft comparing a PS4 to a 4K dual Titan X setup. At least at lower res it gives them a fighting chance.
 
agnes said:
What they are saying is that the current consoles really are no less than a PC.
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I dont think that's the point.

In fact, when people were discussing this back when it first came out, one of the most obvious differences that made PC so identifiable was the 60fps. And that came from even console gamers. And I think that's what this demonstrates most. That minor-to-moderate graphics improvements pale in comparison to the difference that 30fps vs 60fps makes. So if anything, I'd say this really highlights the benefits of PC gaming.

There are a few problems with the study, though. For one, anybody judging based on the video provided will have to judge through a fairly compressed medium. That is not direct feed quality footage.
 
Dunno about the games they tried as I don't play any of them. Not sure if he mentioned what kind of settings he ran on the PC setup either.

My own experience is GTAV and BF4 on a mate's PS4 and I can see the difference (though haven't done a side by side).
Mainly aliasing, distance detail and shadow resolution stand out along with a hint of judder when turning around, which is down to fps. Maybe ambient occlusion too.

Considering the price difference between a PS4 and PC capable of running games like that with super duper settings, I think the console versions are excellent and wouldn't be bitching about it.

Yeah, PC can and does look better, with higher fps if you have the hardware, but consoles do look great regardless.
 
The test he did at the end of the video.

You could clearly see video 2 was the PC by a million miles. 3 was sluggish as hell compared to 2 and more sluggish than 1 so it was the xbox. 1 Being the PS4.
 
Why is this even a debate lol. The facts speak for themselves.
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Typical industry gibberish trying to 'defend' consoles and not reiterate a major factor to PC gaming...a high end PC will always look better than a console on a cross platform game. That is the point of PC gaming, you can reach higher graphical fidelity with better PC hardware. A low/mid range GPU will not be able to have all the graphical bells and whistles whilst sustaining a decent framerate. Meaning a low/mid end GPU is similar in graphical power to the latest consoles.

That being said, some games - lets use the exclusives as an example so the point is not void - do look very good on the consoles. For example, Killzone Shadow Fall on PS4 is exclusive and does look very good ingame. However, if it was also available on PC, a high end PC would make the game look so much better. The same could be said for Ryse Son of Rome that was exclusive to the XB1 but is now on PC, at 4K this game looks stunning.

IMO one of the main graphical features I notice the most in cross platform games is the Antialiasing. It massively increases the load on a graphics card and unfortunately for consoles, AA is sacrificed or other AA trickery is used to iron out as many jaggies as possible. Side by side, its the AA and clarity of the image on PC that gives it away. For example, Forza 6 (XB1 exclusive) is a jaggy fest in my eyes. It may boast 1080/60fps etc etc but AA has been massively reduced in this title, along with lots of other features that makes the game just look bland.
 
TBF its like comparing a hot hatch to a super car if you're comparing top end PC to console. An Xbox costs more like a GPU alone, never mind all the rest of a PC.

They are different products to some degree, but completely different things in terms of price so why compare at all?
 
Tbh, the consoles aren't bad for the price point, but then as said above comparing a £300 console on most likely a mediocre 1080p tv is never going to compete with £1k+ of a gaming rig on a £500 monitor.

Pc gaming is better there is no question, but in terms of the good ol 'bang for buck' it's probably similar.

Consoles create the illusion, and they've brought gaming to the point of being a popular hobby and for many of us (myself included) they've acted as a gateway drug to the master race, so for all the bickering they arent that bad.
 
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