If i dont work my notice..

David _b · 30 Aug 2007 at 20:47

Hi

I handed my notice in on the 18th this month, 4 weeks worth and claimed no holidays. I have had it up to here of the place and just rang my new job and they say i can start on monday if i want. So...If i ring my work now and say im not coming in tonight or ever again...can they stop my wages that i have already worked for over the past 2 weeks

I dont want to finish my 4 weeks notice i just want out. If i leave now that means im owed 2 weeks wages roughly from the date i handed my notice / cut off of new working month is the 16th.

Basically, can they deny me them 2 weeks wages for not completing my notice?

Thanks...Quick but propper answers needed...As if they cant deny my wages, im not going in tonight.

Sinny · 30 Aug 2007 at 20:48

You worked those 2 weeks you will get wages for those 2 weeks, simple as.

gord · 30 Aug 2007 at 20:52

Not saying this will happen, but i know of a business that had one of their staff get given an opportunity to work abroad immediately. Obviously she couldnt work her notice that was included in the contract of employment. They sued her.

I know you said 4 weeks worth, so i dont know how harsh your employer would be if you didnt work those 4 weeks you agreed to.

David _b · 30 Aug 2007 at 20:53

Our pay month runs from 16th to the 16th each month. So i handed it in on the 18th so that there can be no dispute that i am owed a full month and even them a further 2 days. I planned to work my full 4 weeks notice. So i have worked 2 weeks of it fully and properly. But this morning a new computer system came online and i have no inclination to learn it. So if i ring now and say im not coming back, tell the boss in the morning my reasons etc.

They cant deny me them 2 weeks worth that i have already worked ? Few more opinions. It was on rota basis 5 days per week if that matters.

XPE · 30 Aug 2007 at 20:53

They have to pay you for what you have worked, i dont know about the holiday pay tho.

paradigm · 30 Aug 2007 at 20:53

Sinny said:
You worked those 2 weeks you will get wages for those 2 weeks, simple as.

Not sure its quite as cut and dry as that. You are breaking the terms of your contract, and as a result you are not in contract agreement with them. Terminating your own employment on your terms isn't exactly "best practice".

David _b · 30 Aug 2007 at 20:55

gord said:
Not saying this will happen, but i know of a business that had one of their staff get given an opportunity to work abroad immediately. Obviously she couldnt work her notice that was included in the contract of employment. They sued her.

I think this may be so if the company looses something, fails to meat deadlines, maybe looses a large contract. But im a night receptionist at a hotel. ~(hilton) So im not going to be responsible for a huge loss and there are staff on with me tonight cause of the new system, so if i dont go in everything will still happen as normal.

Jotun · 30 Aug 2007 at 20:57

How many days holiday have you got?

Can you just take the last 2 weeks off as leave if you have enough?

XPE · 30 Aug 2007 at 20:57

David _b said:
I think this may be so if the company looses something, fails to meat deadlines, maybe looses a large contract. But im a night receptionist at a hotel. ~(hilton) So im not going to be responsible for a huge loss and there are staff on with me tonight cause of the new system, so if i dont go in everything will still happen as normal.

It also might have been because that company had paid for training and just after it finished she upped and left and this is them trying to recoup some of the cost.

David _b · 30 Aug 2007 at 20:57

paradigm said:
Not sure its quite as cut and dry as that. You are breaking the terms of your contract, and as a result you are not in contract agreement with them. Terminating your own employment on your terms isn't exactly "best practice".

I have no idea of going back to this place, if i get time a shall lsit my reasons and just bad working regulations. I have had 1.5 years of no breaks most nights, no food on a 8 hour shift. Working maybe 8 nights in a row, no night allowance. No benefits or thanks, I get paid 13k a year. Full time night shift. As a night supervisor and as of the last 3 months i have being doing night manager as he is off with the stress...

David _b · 30 Aug 2007 at 20:59

Jotun said:
How many days holiday have you got?

Can you just take the last 2 weeks off as leave if you have enough?

We are allocated 20 days a year, running on the financial year. I took 9 in May. Apparently i have not earned the other 11 yet as its only nearly September.. Think it works out at 1.5 days holiday per month worked..or so.

Ex-RoNiN · 30 Aug 2007 at 21:00

David _b said:
I think this may be so if the company looses something, fails to meat deadlines, maybe looses a large contract. But im a night receptionist at a hotel. ~(hilton) So im not going to be responsible for a huge loss and there are staff on with me tonight cause of the new system, so if i dont go in everything will still happen as normal.

Go in tonight, and give me lots of HHonours points please

David _b · 30 Aug 2007 at 21:03

So, can they deny me 2 weeks pay ?

Thanks

ScarySquirrel · 30 Aug 2007 at 21:15

Ask them if it is ok. I know it is a different period of time but I asked to only work 3 weeks notice when I changed jobs and they said it was ok.

It might not look good on your CV if you just don't go in, probably couldn't use them as a reference. Not sure if that is an issue for you or not.

Sinny · 30 Aug 2007 at 21:16

paradigm said:
Not sure its quite as cut and dry as that. You are breaking the terms of your contract, and as a result you are not in contract agreement with them. Terminating your own employment on your terms isn't exactly "best practice".

Im pretty sure you have to get payed for what you work, its up to the company how the handle it lawfully.

I left my job a week untill my notice was up to go on to an Apprenteship, they werent fussed, i got a good appraisal or whatever you call it ^_^.

I think its all about the company you work for, i previously worked at chester zoo and they were really nice people to work for, always pleasant environment.

However if you leave 4 weeks early from a reputable SME then you are probably going to get slated slightly, as i say it depends on the company.

but you will get the money for those 2 weeks you worked for. as long as you clocked in or registered your flexi sheet.

Tefal · 30 Aug 2007 at 21:19

could you not just go in tonight and **** up epically like undercharge a guest by a few hundred quid, lean on a fire alarm etc?

Camalot · 30 Aug 2007 at 21:21

You'll get the 2 weeks.

Someone tried to quit my place without working their notice and they were told if they don't work their notice they loose their holiday pay, or something.

David _b · 30 Aug 2007 at 21:23

Tefal said:
could you not just go in tonight and **** up epically like undercharge a guest by a few hundred quid, lean on a fire alarm etc?

Dont have to lean...i have the main fire panel control within 1 foot of me, Another reason im leaving. I cant be out of eye sight of that bloddy thing, the whole 8 hours im there should it go off, i have to act.

UFX · 30 Aug 2007 at 21:24

You sound stressed, phone in sick

Tefal · 30 Aug 2007 at 21:26

David _b said:
Dont have to lean...i have the main fire panel control within 1 foot of me, Another reason im leaving. I cant be out of eye sight of that bloddy thing, the whole 8 hours im there should it go off, i have to act.

Couldn't you set it off "by acident" then bugger off ? sacked for that surely?