If I had the following PC

As people have said your card will bottleneck your cpu so its pointless having a i7 with such a crappy card.

If i had 800 quid to spend on a new pc i would defo buy from ocuk.

But if your determind to go with that system you could always buy a graphics card at a later date, because you will be really dissapointed with that card.
 
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Good christ almighty don't buy a dell.

You end up with a machine so slowed down by all the crap they pre-install and you don't even have a full OS to wipe the harddrive and reinstall with.

Get this system:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-237-OK

And add on windows 7 and an nVidia 470GTX. The 470 is much quicker then the ATi 5850, definitely worth the extra tenner anyway.
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i'll be honest i've had 5 Dells and never had a problem with them after taking off the rubbish.
i also like the fact that when i re-install i hit 4 keys and it re-installs itself in 8 minutes lol.
the overclockers pre-built systems do look good yes, out of interest if i select an operating system at purchase does it come installed ?
 
I've also been an Nvidia guy so if i bought from overclockers i'd probably go for this:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-237-OK

System Specification
- Case: Antec 300 Case with Alien Green case fans.
- Power Supply: OCZ Stealth Stream II 600W
- CPU: Intel Core i3 530 2.93GHz Clarkdale overclocked to 4.20GHz
- Motherboard: Gigabyte H55M-UDH2 Intel H55 (Socket 1156) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
- Cooler: Akasa Venom CPU Cooler
- RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
- Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache
- Graphics Card: Nvidia 400 (gtx 460 785mb) Series DX11 Compatible Graphics Cards
- Sound: Realtek 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)
- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA Drive[/B]

+ Windows 7 64bit premium = £700

would this play new / newish games at medium detail ?
 
movingtables said:
I've also been an Nvidia guy so if i bought from overclockers i'd probably go for this:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-237-OK

System Specification
- Case: Antec 300 Case with Alien Green case fans.
- Power Supply: OCZ Stealth Stream II 600W
- CPU: Intel Core i3 530 2.93GHz Clarkdale overclocked to 4.20GHz
- Motherboard: Gigabyte H55M-UDH2 Intel H55 (Socket 1156) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
- Cooler: Akasa Venom CPU Cooler
- RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
- Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache
- Graphics Card: Nvidia 400 (gtx 460 785mb) Series DX11 Compatible Graphics Cards
- Sound: Realtek 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)
- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA Drive[/B]

+ Windows 7 64bit premium = £700

would this play new / newish games at medium detail ?
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Will play everything on high, go for it.
 
and finaly, despite being a member for over 6 years here i aint overclocked anything ever.
It says in the description that the machine is garenteed stable with the overclocks.
does this shorten the lifespan of the components a little ?

again many thanks to all who replied..
 
it may shave a few years off the cpu from being overclocked yes but frankly cpus last so long anyway (10 years or more) by the time it dies you will have got a new cpu by then anyway as it will be out of date or your motherboard died first which is far more likely.
 
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If you buy a dell PC your upgrades become amazingly expensive. I myself had a studio XPS 8000 bought for me which has a i7 860 and 6gb of ram, then with a GT220 graphics card lol. The PSU was a unknown brand 375W meaning to upgrade the graphics card I had to first replace the PSU, adding a nice £80 onto whatever gcard I ended up buying. I ended up getting a corsair PSU and a 5870 graphics card which cost me over half of your budget for 2 components.

So yeah, go with an ocuk premade system if you want performance for your money otherwise your left with an expensive upgrade path added ontop of your initial budget.
 
movingtables said:
i'll be honest i've had 5 Dells and never had a problem with them after taking off the rubbish.
i also like the fact that when i re-install i hit 4 keys and it re-installs itself in 8 minutes lol.
the overclockers pre-built systems do look good yes, out of interest if i select an operating system at purchase does it come installed ?
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I got 2 pre-built systems from here within the last year, they are both superbly built and never ever crash/bsod.

You get the OS installed too.

I would never buy a pre-built elsewhere.....the cable management alone in these pcs are flawless.I agree aswell with the Xenomorph system with the GTX470.

Also they come with the overclocked settings saved in a bios profile so you can switch to stock settings if you want though it's not needed as you only lose about 1-2 years off the cpu lifespan which usually is around 10 years anyway.
 
movingtables said:
i'll be honest i've had 5 Dells and never had a problem with them after taking off the rubbish.
i also like the fact that when i re-install i hit 4 keys and it re-installs itself in 8 minutes lol.
the overclockers pre-built systems do look good yes, out of interest if i select an operating system at purchase does it come installed ?
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We use Dell PC's at work mostly, good workhorse PC's. For gaming you will not get anywhere near as good as the O/C pre-builds for the same kind of money with Dell.
 
Without going into too much detail I built this PC just under a year ago on a bang for buck basis (I also gave myself very good OC and upgrade options to play with). Its an I5, 4Gb ram and a single 5850. This combo i5 5850 is an excellent combo. I have played a host of the latest games and nothing seems to trouble it (i only run in 1680*1050 though, which is not very demanding).
 
I'm just going to echo the buying of the OCUK Xeno pre-built. Dell are fine for an office PC but they cut corners on important components (PSU/HSF mainly) and overcharge horrendously for "gaming spec" machines.

In any case, OCUK will surely pre-install if you ask nicely.
 
Won't a single core system be a bit sluggish these days? At least where loading times are concerned rather than GPU.
 
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