if the RAM and the video cards are parallel instead of perpendicular

[tonschk]

I Dont understand why the motherboards manufacturers insist to make the mobos with the memory RAM perpendicular to the video card slots , I think the airflow can cool better both components the RAM and the video cards , if the RAM and the video cards are parallel instead of perpendicular , now I have very few choises about mobos , there is only a few mobos with the RAM and the video cards parallel

 

[VortexA1]

well personally i wouldnt worry about being parallel to each other; people can overclock their cpus high with them not being parallel with no problems whatsoever.

 

[95thrifles]

thats actually quite a nicely laid out board, generally not just re RAM, which make is it?

 

[wonderlust]

Was that not part of the idea of BTX?

 

[cuke2u]

Hi, heat rises, thus those memory modules would be at the hotest place and would block airflow from venting out of the top of the case...
Chris

 

[Voxination]

thats actually quite a nicely laid out board, generally not just re RAM, which make is it?

Pretty sure it's an Intel reference X58 board (Tripple Chan ram going by the colour coding)


Although the 8-pin CPU power is in an odd place, but it's not really inconvenient (Next to an Intel logo and what I think is the NB Heatsink)

 

[marscay]

To each their own but why anyone would restrict themselves to motherboards with a particular memory orientation ......well i find pretty funny.

In a well designed case airflow over any component isn't a problem.

 

[Voxination]

Just thought - Having memory there would limit the way a TRUE/Megahalem was mounted to the way in which it sucks hot air from the GCard...

 

[Gzero]

Was thinking the same thing, the clearance around the cpu isn't very good on that design, and you can't push the ram out much further (in this case up) as you would be touching one of the contact points

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See thats why ram is on the right hand side, makes sense as it fits the atx/matx/itx spec, and means little adjustment needed in the factory to develop the boards.

 

[tonschk]

Hi, heat rises, thus those memory modules would be at the hotest place and would block airflow from venting out of the top of the case...
Chris

No problem , I turn my PC case 90 degrees , therefore the mobo will be also rotated 90 degrees , this way the PCI slots and the RAM slots will be vertical , like in the new RAVEN RV02 case , the airflow will be total vertical , also the airflow inside my PC Power & Cooling 910W PSU will be vertical but in a upside down way , because the fresh air will go inside the PSU where the airflow usually escape from a normal PSU , this is the reason I need a mobo with vertical slot RAM

 

[tonschk]

Even inside the power supply all the heatsinks are attached on the PCB parallel to each other ,to allow the airflow in just a single direction to cool all the heatsinks , therefore dont make sense to install the heatsinks perpendicular to each other

 

[richb93]

WTF!?

 

[JonJ678]

Reversing the direction of airflow in the psu may come back to haunt you.

The point is that it doesn't matter which way round the ram is, as it doesn't stick up very far (assuming you don't buy ones with massive heatsinks perched on top), and even if it does the impact on airflow is negligible.

Perhaps if you were more detailed with what you're planning we'd be able to understand where you're coming from, but the disadvantages to using that intel reference board conclusively outweigh the benefit from the ram being arranged in that direction from where I'm sitting.

p.s. that's a pretty unusual psu design these days (not saying bad, I really like pc p&c), if you look inside the photographed Corsair you'll find that heatsinks don't always need to be aligned with the fan.

 

[Zenduri]

if your worried about heat and airflow get a Raven 2 case i think the rear IO plate is on top, meaning the motherbaord is turned 90 degrees.

 

[tonschk]

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Question ......Why is BTX put forward since ATX is so popular now?



Answer:..... ....The reason for BTX release is just for heat elimination. The air passage of ATX is just like an "S"
written reversely, namely from the hard disk to chip set, CPU and the fan of power supply, and this way of heat
elimination is Not effective. BTX adopts an enclosed air passage in a straight line, and the CPU, chip set, video
card and memory are all parallel in this air passage, thus the heat elimination becomes more effective. In the future,
the BTX will become more advantageous along with the promoted power consumption of CPU

 

[JonJ678]

Did you read the above? I'd be interested in a reasoned response to post 13.

I think the atx spec makes considerable sense, but it's written in terms of reducing costs not optimising airflow. The cost of implementing btx exceeds the advantages to it. Atx to matx driven by higher integration of components onto the motherboard is occurring, but then matx is backwards compatible with atx and has clear advantages.

Slightly tongue in cheek, but the best solution to directing airflow is to move to water cooling. Heat then goes precisely where you tell it to and trying to arrange things for optimum air cooling is no longer required.

 

[tonschk]

Thank you for your answer , I think is not a problem to reverse the direction of the airflow inside the PSU , the amount of airflow must be for this PC Power & Cooling 910W PSU about 30 to 50 CFM , no matter which way the airflow move ( backwards or forwards ) , the cooling effect inside the PSU is the same

I am choosing which fan to attach to this PSU , the original fan was not total silent , I have found a really silent ( at low-middle speed ) Silverstone thermistor three blades fan

There are by at least two or Three main problems with water cooling , The first is obviously much much more expensive than the simple cheap aircooling ,the second, water can touch just a few components inside the computer , the airflow on the other side can flow all over the place inside the computer cooling everything everywhere ( if the airflow is properly oriented inside the PC ) , the main problem with watercooling are the short circuit due to leaks , I am already tired to see and hear in the forums and from friends about expensive hardware lost due to leaks of water , and even if at the biginning the water used can be non conductive , after a while the chemical properties of the water can inavoidable change and become conductive

Watercooling ? ,.... No thank you

 

[tonschk]

Now this motherboard start to make sense , All the Slots are parallel and of course is easy to choose the direction of the airflow to cool the components on the mobo

 

[SMAndy]

Thats just two of the OP motherboard stuck together, really. Looks more like a server board for fans just blowing air from front to back in a rack-mount case. I'd guess thats what they were going for with that first mobo.

Most PC's now tend to have airflow in from the front and side, and out from the top and back, which makes sense as there is airflow going to all places of the board. Having the BTX style layout means that you can actually get heat collection in the bottom of the case, as convection and already existing airflow restricts it from escaping. Increased by having the graphics card essentially upside down. The backside of the card wouldn't get much cooling to it.

 

[JonJ678]

Good luck with the psu, you may well be fine.

To address your anti watercooling points,
1: Yep, costs more.
2: Only the really die hard use watercooling by itself. Most direct water at the hottest bits and air cool the rest, e.g. chipset. So there is still air blowing around the case, it's just lower temperature air.
3: Watercooled computers do not spontaneously develop leaks, with the possible exception of extreme old age causing O rings to fail. I believe that your friends who had hardware killed by water should have taken more care. Pumping water around a computer without working out what you're doing and leak testing before use will kill components, but frankly that's user error.

That's hardly a pretty example of watercooling. I assume it was selected as such, few people would argue that watercooling is less attractive than air. Certainly radiators hanging off the back is aethetically troublesome, but it isn't that hard to mount them internally or assemble a radbox.