If you had ~£4k

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Hey Guys;

So nearing my 40th and been saving for sometime and figured that £4k or there abouts feels like relatively round number and been looking to see what this could get me. I've been saving for a while, so will try make a good choice.

Just remodelled the home office as I can see I am going to be in it for a fair while and it's missing a nice rig to finish the space.

I am not looking for a glorified paperweight either, but something that is somewhat futureproofed; now I know that in this industry things change roughly every quarter, so what's new today is old tomorrow; but I do believe investing in the right pieces provides longevity.

I intend on playing a fair amount of games, at the moment I am on console, but feel it's time to go back to my roots. It will be the typical AAA titles from COD, CyberPunk, Tomb Radar and might even try some of the simulators like Flight Sim than having a play around with some video / sound editing; not professional standard mind you.

I consider a monitor seperate to the rig; but I am looking at the Samsung G9 Odessey

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sams...ync-compatible-curved-gaming-m-mo-247-sa.html

As for the rig itself, I am definetely interested in the AMD processors and think watercooled rigs look sick AF ... so am just seeking some opinions and advice really.

So here's the two variations:

I quite like this CyberPunk rig, but how much am I paying for the label vs the components. I don't think I am skilled enough to piece something like this together; it's been a good 20 years since I last had to build a PC (386 DX100 with Windows 3.11, if memory serves me correctly was the last one I did) and I don't think racking servers into a datacentre counts as building PC's:


https://www.overclockers.co.uk/infi...erpunk-2077-inspired-gaming-pc-fs-46f-oe.html

The only adjustment I'd do to the above (options seem limited), is upgrade the RAM to 32GB and add a second M2 drive.

.....

So then I decided, well let me see if I can size something up, and landed up with the below. Interestingly, even this method has some limits, for example can't find 4000mhz DDR4 RAM on the list ...

My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs Watercooled AMD X570 Ryzen Pro Gaming Configurator = £4,023.30
    • Case:Corsair Crystal 680X RGB High Airflow ATX Case - Black Tempered Glass (CC-9011168-WW)
    • Core Watercooling Kit:Corsair HydroX Combo Kit Pro - 2x 360mm Radiators with RGB Fans, XD3 RGB Pump Reservoir
    • CPU:AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Sixteen Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
    • Motherboard:MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 ATX Motherboard
    • Memory:Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit
    • CPU Block:EK Water Blocks EK-Velocity Digital Addressable RGB AMD CPU Water Block - Nickel + Plexi
    • Fittings & Tubing Kit:Corsair HydroX Hard Tubing & Fittings Kit - Black
    • Watercooling Fluid Colour:Corsair Hydro X Series XL5 Red 2L Watercooling Bundle
    • Solid State Drive (M.2) 1 - Operating System:Seagate Firecuda 520 500GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (ZP500GM3A002)
    • Solid State Drive (M.2) 2:Seagate Firecuda 510 500GB PCIe NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (ZP500GM3A001)
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 1:Seagate 2TB 2.5" BarraCuda 120 SATA Solid State Drive - *System Stock* (ZA2000CM10003)
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • 3.5" Mechanical Storage Drive:Unwanted
    • Power Supply:Corsair HXi Series HX850i 850W '80 Plus Platinum Digital Modular Power Supply (CP-9020073-UK)
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Soundcard:Asus Xonar AE 7.1 PCI-E Gaming Sound Card (90YB00J0-M1UA00)
    • Case Lighting:Corsair Lighting Node Pro, RGB Lighting Controller with Individually Addressable RGB LED Strips
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Monitors:Unwanted
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Gaming Desk:Unwanted
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Graphics Card:Asus GeForce RTX 3080 ROG Strix Gaming OC 10GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card
Total: £4,037.40 (includes shipping: £14.10)​
​

Anyways, curious to see thoughts ....
 
Stopped reading at 3950x

get a Zen 3

Edit...read a bit more.

if you forget water cooling you could save a lot of money for some high quality flight peripherals.
 
McGraw said:
Stopped reading at 3950x

get a Zen 3

Edit...read a bit more.

if you forget water cooling you could save a lot of money for some high quality flight peripherals.
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Zen 3 isn't out yet, I don't think so at least; I did stumble across some posts about it.

I'll have a look at the flight peripherals as an alternative ... haven't played much in terms of flight sims, so not sure i'd throw loads of cash at it, but still worth a look.
 
FunkMaster said:
Zen 3 isn't out yet, I don't think so at least; I did stumble across some posts about it.

I'll have a look at the flight peripherals as an alternative ... haven't played much in terms of flight sims, so not sure i'd throw loads of cash at it, but still worth a look.
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yes the 5000 series has been out a while.
 
FunkMaster said:
Zen 3 isn't out yet, I don't think so at least; I did stumble across some posts about it.

I'll have a look at the flight peripherals as an alternative ... haven't played much in terms of flight sims, so not sure i'd throw loads of cash at it, but still worth a look.
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Zen 3 is out. Get the 5800x. I have pretty much the same setup,

5800x, 32gb ddr4 3200mhz, x570 tomahawk, ventus rtx 3080, seasonic focus plus 850w, 2tb m.2 ssd, corsair 570x case, Samsung odyssey g9.

Tbh agree with above, watercooling is unnecessary and a faff.

Let me know if you have any questions.
 
FunkMaster said:
Hey Guys;

So nearing my 40th and been saving for sometime and figured that £4k or there abouts feels like relatively round number and been looking to see what this could get me. I've been saving for a while, so will try make a good choice.

Just remodelled the home office as I can see I am going to be in it for a fair while and it's missing a nice rig to finish the space.

I am not looking for a glorified paperweight either, but something that is somewhat futureproofed; now I know that in this industry things change roughly every quarter, so what's new today is old tomorrow; but I do believe investing in the right pieces provides longevity.

I intend on playing a fair amount of games, at the moment I am on console, but feel it's time to go back to my roots. It will be the typical AAA titles from COD, CyberPunk, Tomb Radar and might even try some of the simulators like Flight Sim than having a play around with some video / sound editing; not professional standard mind you.

I consider a monitor seperate to the rig; but I am looking at the Samsung G9 Odessey

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sams...ync-compatible-curved-gaming-m-mo-247-sa.html

As for the rig itself, I am definetely interested in the AMD processors and think watercooled rigs look sick AF ... so am just seeking some opinions and advice really.

So here's the two variations:

I quite like this CyberPunk rig, but how much am I paying for the label vs the components. I don't think I am skilled enough to piece something like this together; it's been a good 20 years since I last had to build a PC (386 DX100 with Windows 3.11, if memory serves me correctly was the last one I did) and I don't think racking servers into a datacentre counts as building PC's:


https://www.overclockers.co.uk/infi...erpunk-2077-inspired-gaming-pc-fs-46f-oe.html

The only adjustment I'd do to the above (options seem limited), is upgrade the RAM to 32GB and add a second M2 drive.

.....

So then I decided, well let me see if I can size something up, and landed up with the below. Interestingly, even this method has some limits, for example can't find 4000mhz DDR4 RAM on the list ...

My basket at Overclockers UK:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs Watercooled AMD X570 Ryzen Pro Gaming Configurator = £4,023.30
    • Case:Corsair Crystal 680X RGB High Airflow ATX Case - Black Tempered Glass (CC-9011168-WW)
    • Core Watercooling Kit:Corsair HydroX Combo Kit Pro - 2x 360mm Radiators with RGB Fans, XD3 RGB Pump Reservoir
    • CPU:AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Sixteen Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
    • Motherboard:MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 ATX Motherboard
    • Memory:Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit
    • CPU Block:EK Water Blocks EK-Velocity Digital Addressable RGB AMD CPU Water Block - Nickel + Plexi
    • Fittings & Tubing Kit:Corsair HydroX Hard Tubing & Fittings Kit - Black
    • Watercooling Fluid Colour:Corsair Hydro X Series XL5 Red 2L Watercooling Bundle
    • Solid State Drive (M.2) 1 - Operating System:Seagate Firecuda 520 500GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (ZP500GM3A002)
    • Solid State Drive (M.2) 2:Seagate Firecuda 510 500GB PCIe NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (ZP500GM3A001)
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 1:Seagate 2TB 2.5" BarraCuda 120 SATA Solid State Drive - *System Stock* (ZA2000CM10003)
    • 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive 2:Unwanted
    • 3.5" Mechanical Storage Drive:Unwanted
    • Power Supply:Corsair HXi Series HX850i 850W '80 Plus Platinum Digital Modular Power Supply (CP-9020073-UK)
    • Network Adapter:Unwanted
    • Soundcard:Asus Xonar AE 7.1 PCI-E Gaming Sound Card (90YB00J0-M1UA00)
    • Case Lighting:Corsair Lighting Node Pro, RGB Lighting Controller with Individually Addressable RGB LED Strips
    • Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
    • Security Software:Unwanted
    • Keyboard:Unwanted
    • Mouse:Unwanted
    • Headset:Unwanted
    • Monitors:Unwanted
    • Speakers:Unwanted
    • Gaming Desk:Unwanted
    • Gaming Chair:Unwanted
    • Graphics Card:Asus GeForce RTX 3080 ROG Strix Gaming OC 10GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card
Total: £4,037.40 (includes shipping: £14.10)
​

Anyways, curious to see thoughts ....
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Terrible value. I'm rocking 5950x cooled with a h150i rgb pro xt on a x570 aorus master mobo along with crucial ballistix 32gb 3600 cl16 ram, rtx 3090 founders edition, 1300w psu, 2.5tbs of ssd (1tb being gen 4 nvme) and a gazillion addressable rgb corsair fans in a lian li o11 air case for a couple hundred less.
 
If you want future proof then spend 2k on a system now then in 3 years spend 2k on a new system with AM5 / ddr5 and a new GPU etc, once you start spending over 2k today you end up with very little extra performance for your money.

For example today's 16 core CPU will be beaten by next years budget 6 core in gaming.
 
Thanks for all the insights chaps ... very useful indeed.

I think I misread the statement about the Zen 3, my reference to “it not being available” was related to the “Zen 3 Threadripper 5000”.

What is abundantly clear though, don’t spend £4K, but somewhere around £2k and save the rest for an upgrade in a few years as that is the inevitable part of this hobby.

will take a closer look at the combinations shared above.
 
FunkMaster said:
Thanks for all the insights chaps ... very useful indeed.

I think I misread the statement about the Zen 3, my reference to “it not being available” was related to the “Zen 3 Threadripper 5000”.

What is abundantly clear though, don’t spend £4K, but somewhere around £2k and save the rest for an upgrade in a few years as that is the inevitable part of this hobby.

will take a closer look at the combinations shared above.
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monitors are worth the cash .

currently intel 10c 10850k comes in at a good price to AMD 5800X 8 core due to latter's demand


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £798.68 (includes shipping: £8.70)​
​
 
FunkMaster said:
I think I misread the statement about the Zen 3, my reference to “it not being available” was related to the “Zen 3 Threadripper 5000”.
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Threadripper is entirely irrelevant for gaming.
Current CPUs will get otherwise old well before games would need even 16 cores.
And 12 cores would be enough for many years for even the most core hungry games with web browser etc open on background.



orbitalwalsh said:
monitors are worth the cash .
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Too bad there just aren't much of good 4K gaming monitors available.
 
BigBANGtheory said:
and don't waste your money on a "Asus GeForce RTX 3080 ROG Strix Gaming OC 10GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card", very little extra performance for a lot more money
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What would you recommend out of interest?

EsaT said:
Threadripper is entirely irrelevant for gaming.
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That's what I read, so I knew a Threadripper is a overkill.

Some really great advice here, I guess I need to go and explore some more
 
Spending less to spend more later is always the best for pc gaming imo, you could probably max out most games for 2k now and spend £800 every other year there after for 3-5 years on the same cpu whilst selling off the old gpu. Stretching out that 4k for much longer but for the same experience now, but a better experience overall. Just my 2p anyway.
 
Get overclockers to build it for you add Windows or install it yourself. Could also get a 5900x 12 core cpu.


CODE My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,494.57 (includes shipping: £14.70)
​
 
Begbie said:
Spending less to spend more later is always the best for pc gaming imo, you could probably max out most games for 2k now and spend £800 every other year there after for 3-5 years on the same cpu whilst selling off the old gpu. Stretching out that 4k for much longer but for the same experience now, but a better experience overall. Just my 2p anyway.
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That's pretty good way of looking at it ... I'll take your 2p and now have £4000.02 :)

mickyflinn said:
Get overclockers to build it for you add Windows or install it yourself. Could also get a 5900x 12 core cpu.


CODE My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,494.57 (includes shipping: £14.70)
​
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Thanks for sharing this, interesting to see what you guys with the experience put together into your basket and that price is much closer to what everyone in this thread is recommending. I appreciate you taking the time to chuck this into a basket for me.

I guess it's too easy to just pick the most expensive item on the list and I've spent two evenings now actually reading about these components to have a better understanding of what they mean in the context of gaming!
 
FunkMaster said:
That's pretty good way of looking at it ... I'll take your 2p and now have £4000.02 :)



Thanks for sharing this, interesting to see what you guys with the experience put together into your basket and that price is much closer to what everyone in this thread is recommending. I appreciate you taking the time to chuck this into a basket for me.

I guess it's too easy to just pick the most expensive item on the list and I've spent two evenings now actually reading about these components to have a better understanding of what they mean in the context of gaming!
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Your welcome .

Its also the fact that theese parts are in stock apart from the psu but that's easily changed. So you could order this lets say £200 for overclockers to build it and £110 for Windows.

If i had 4k and had to by right know that would be it.
 
EsaT said:
Threadripper is entirely irrelevant for gaming.
Current CPUs will get otherwise old well before games would need even 16 cores.
And 12 cores would be enough for many years for even the most core hungry games with web browser etc open on background.



Too bad there just aren't much of good 4K gaming monitors available.
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Seems Display Port monitors have been delayed till end of the year. 2.1 hdmi monitors will be slow to roll out :(
Least that's a blessing from consoles, will force these monitors out quicker then if they'd not shown up
 
FunkMaster said:
What would you recommend out of interest?



That's what I read, so I knew a Threadripper is a overkill.

Some really great advice here, I guess I need to go and explore some more
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Asus are generally way overpriced. They sell 3070s that are more expensive than 3080FEs.

You are a bit stuck with 3080s in that you have to get what is available to a certain extent but I wouldn’t want to pay more than £750 for one and if you’re not obsessed with looks they’re all much of a muchness.
 
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,579.78 (includes shipping: £15.90)​
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you should have all bases covered
 
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