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dirtydog said:You and atpbx were acting allas if anyone might have problems with a PC game and getting it to work properly. I don't understand why anyone would say that, unless it is either to be controversial or they have limited experience of PC games. Or, as I said before, they have an uber PC, or have been lucky in their choice of games.
No i just dont have any problems, and i cant understand how anyone can say life in PC gaming is a constant battle with patches crashes and updates because it isnt.
I've got most of the major releases from the past couple of years, COH, F.E.A.R, Hitman Blood Money, X-3, Fahrenheit, BF2, Oblivion and they all worked out the box.
Obviously if you crank the visualls up to absolute maximum in Oblivion then the GS stutters but that doesnt take hours of twiddling, just 5 seconds to turn down *** detail a bit.
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Not far off, I was posting from my phone and it doesn't even HAVE ONE! Be grateful I even bothered with cas and punctuation!BloodWolf said:maybe his enter button is broken
otoh, nobody HAD to read it, and if they found it tiring to read they could have simply ignored it...
I wouldn't worry.
For consoles to exist you need PCs to make the games with graphics cards to match.
The worst that will happen in the near future is games will be made for the Consoles and ported over to the PC. I mean it takes no effort to port a game and there is money to be made. Consoles becoming more like PCs could be a good thing as games are easier to port to PCs and should be better.
This is only over the next 5 years or so. Consoles are getting more like PCs, a couple of generations down the line the switch might be easy.
For consoles to exist you need PCs to make the games with graphics cards to match.
The worst that will happen in the near future is games will be made for the Consoles and ported over to the PC. I mean it takes no effort to port a game and there is money to be made. Consoles becoming more like PCs could be a good thing as games are easier to port to PCs and should be better.
This is only over the next 5 years or so. Consoles are getting more like PCs, a couple of generations down the line the switch might be easy.
Ulfhedjinn said:
While this is getting more prevalent now, I'd wager that a greater proportion of PC games are sold online (compared to console games) because the vast majority of people who play games on PC have an internet connection.
But more importantly, the average age of console gamers is lower, i.e. there are quite a few console gamers who can't buy stuff online because they don't have a credit/debit card. Little Johnny has to stroll down to GAME with his pocket money instead.
Same here, i never understand why people say that, unless we're just luckyatpbx said:
. Also Ive not upgraded since i bought my rig a year and a half ago and have been able to play every game Ive wanted to including FEAR. I always buy my games online as a certain well known online store has free delivery and very good prices so i wouldn't dream of buying from Game. Unless of course i was in the store and it wasn't a lot more money.
I'm sorry but I'm with him. I've never even taken a course to do with computers outside of GCSE and I never have problems with patching or troubleshooting, usually takes five minutes to fix something unless it's a serious bug with the game. Granted I've used computers for years but a.) it's something that comes naturally over time when using them and b.) a little reading never killed anybody.rayb74 said:
Even when I was young and just starting to get used to computers I don't remember "battling with patches" or to get something working because I used common sense. A lot of problems can be averted in the first place, never mind fixed, if you use common sense.
So Ulfhedjinn you been using using computers since a YOUNG age ?
I think that answers my earlier question.
It is some common sense and a lot of experience. Are you trying to say you are better than most of the hardcore gamers on this forum who know about PC`s and have been gaming a long time , because I assure you that to run games at the highest settings and details and resolutions you WILL have to mess with your settings and software and hardware to do it. Why are there so many posts on this subject? All these people should use common sense? Are they stupid? I am afraid common sense alone is not a good enough answer my friend.
The people who have NO hassle with PC gaming are lying or are very lucky and rarer than me winning the lottery.
Hence to justify a PC over a console (Ignoring mouse and keyboard) I would expect to play all games at the highest settings and resolutions e.t.c. which unfortunately means :
High cost
Constantly changing hardware
Messing about with updates / patches and other issues
A good knowledge of Pc`s
Time
£££££££
I find the attraction of the console with my current lifestyle so much easier and less time consuming and convenient.
My PC gaming days are not over yet as I still have money to throw at my PC
I think that answers my earlier question.
It is some common sense and a lot of experience. Are you trying to say you are better than most of the hardcore gamers on this forum who know about PC`s and have been gaming a long time , because I assure you that to run games at the highest settings and details and resolutions you WILL have to mess with your settings and software and hardware to do it. Why are there so many posts on this subject? All these people should use common sense? Are they stupid? I am afraid common sense alone is not a good enough answer my friend.
The people who have NO hassle with PC gaming are lying or are very lucky and rarer than me winning the lottery.
Hence to justify a PC over a console (Ignoring mouse and keyboard) I would expect to play all games at the highest settings and resolutions e.t.c. which unfortunately means :
High cost
Constantly changing hardware
Messing about with updates / patches and other issues
A good knowledge of Pc`s
Time
£££££££
I find the attraction of the console with my current lifestyle so much easier and less time consuming and convenient.
My PC gaming days are not over yet as I still have money to throw at my PC
If you mean that even a YOUNG CHILD can use a computer and fix problems when they occur, then yes you did answer your own question and must agree that computers are actually stupidly easy to use.rayb74 said:So Ulfhedjinn you been using using computers since a YOUNG age ?
I think that answers my earlier question.
Like I said; all it takes is a little common sense, and a little reading never killed anybody.
People who want to play computer games should have no trouble installing and playing a game, Tombraider 2 is more complex by far!! if it all goes smoothly, it is only when something goes wrong that it can be a problem, but other than BF2 and BF2142 every game on this computer has worked fine. And even then that might be my router which would cause the same problem on a console.
You do not need to upgarde your computer all the time. It is just that hanging out on a computer hardware website several hours a day warps our minds.
I could build a PC for about £400 that would play games as good as an XBox and it will do a host of other stuff. (Games that are out anyway, obviously as time goes on they will squeeze more out of it but another upgrade in a couple of years and it would be fine compared to a console.
You do not have to play on full detail or spend lots.
The advantage is being able to sit in the front room with a big chair and a huge screen. Soon I will be making a "media PC" but I might as well bung a decent graphics card in there.
You do not need to upgarde your computer all the time. It is just that hanging out on a computer hardware website several hours a day warps our minds.
I could build a PC for about £400 that would play games as good as an XBox and it will do a host of other stuff. (Games that are out anyway, obviously as time goes on they will squeeze more out of it but another upgrade in a couple of years and it would be fine compared to a console.
You do not have to play on full detail or spend lots.
The advantage is being able to sit in the front room with a big chair and a huge screen. Soon I will be making a "media PC" but I might as well bung a decent graphics card in there.
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rayb74 said:
No we just dont have any hassle, neither does my son with his PC, i bought it for him last christmas, replaced the graphics card with a decent one and he puts a game in, and it works
Mabye you just are not very good with computers, because i dont do any fiddling with mine at all, and everything works.
Mabye and this is probably nearer the truth is that people do TOO MUCH fiddling and break more than they fix.
Beta drivers, switching drivers every few weeks, updating this, deleting that, tweaking this setting, editing this registry setting and bugger me, half your games stop working full stop and your soundcard causes the other half to bluescreen while playing "shotgun4.wmv" in a constant loop.
That has been happening for years. Halo springs to mind, and it ran like crap on most PCs when it came out.iamgud said:
I've given up on PC gaming, I won't be upgrading my PC again for gaming purposes - it is too expensive for too little return compared to what consoles offer.
Some games do have inherent issues - the Colin McRae Rally games for example. They were plagued with a stuttering problem which Codemasters knew about which affected people with Creative sound cards the worst. They posted possible fixes about it on their forums, which involved adding a 'switch' to the game shortcut to turn hardware sound or EAX off, and turning down hardware acceleration in dxdiag. It affected me and many people posted on the CM forums about it.atpbx said:No we just dont have any hassle, neither does my son with his PC, i bought it for him last christmas, replaced the graphics card with a decent one and he puts a game in, and it works
Mabye you just are not very good with computers, because i dont do any fiddling with mine at all, and everything works.
Mabye and this is probably nearer the truth is that people do TOO MUCH fiddling and break more than they fix.
Beta drivers, switching drivers every few weeks, updating this, deleting that, tweaking this setting, editing this registry setting and bugger me, half your games stop working full stop and your soundcard causes the other half to bluescreen while playing "shotgun4.wmv" in a constant loop.
Now maybe you or others would have played those games and thought nothing of the regular stuttering, I don't know
But it spoiled the gameplay - incidentally Codemasters' fixes didn't work properly either. But play any of those games on an Xbox and they run utterly flawlessly. That's just one example, but the PC gaming scene is full of similar stories.