I'm not convinced cards are going out first come, first served.

[SeeNoWeevil]

Is that why we still haven't seen official queue data?

Seeing more and more people notice others with later order times for the same card getting their order before them. Take the Zotac Trinity for example. One of the least popular cards with FIVE percent estimated from the order number survey. OC haven't even satisfied orders for FOUR MINUTES after launch even though there was launch stock and at least 2 arrivals since then (one user was told on the phone a box of 38 came in 2 days ago). Either everyone and their dog actually ordered the Zotac and never completed the survey or cards aren't going out first come, first served.

I'm hoping I'm wrong here but the longer we don't see official queue data, the more irate it's making people.

 

[BlazeRom]

doesn't it also depend on what cards they get?

For example, if the first 100 people ordered a gigabyte card, but they receive from Asus, it would make sense they just ship to the person in queue 101 if he ordered the Asus one.

 

[benjii]

They said they're working on the queue data. They can't just dump their order log to the public, it needs to be setup in a way where the data is private and you can search it with your details or large amounts of it is redacted.

 

[Kryptical]

I would assume it's going to be a case order number and the specific card stock.

I'm hoping the official one comes soon as I know they haven't had much luck getting in touch with EVGA for stock. I'm moving country at the start of November so I'm really hoping to see if mine will be coming before then.

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

doesn't it also depend on what cards they get?

For example, if the first 100 people ordered a gigabyte card, but they receive from Asus, it would make sense they just ship to the person in queue 101 if he ordered the Asus one.

I'm talking specifically about comparisons of the same card. Talking specifically about the Zotac either the following is true;

1. The ratio is way, way off and far more people ordered a Zotac than the survey suggests (possible, but unlikely)
2. OC have received and shipped in the region of 5 Zotacs since launch (highly doubt this)
3. Cards aren't going out first come, first served

What else could cause orders as low as 14:04 to not have been satisfied for that card at this point? By the numbers, those people are like the 4th or 5th person to have ordered the card.

 

[BlazeRom]

I'm talking specifically about comparisons of the same card. Talking specifically about the Zotac either the following is true;

1. The ratio is way, way off and far more people ordered a Zotac than the survey suggests (possible, but unlikely)
2. OC have received and shipped in the region of 5 Zotacs since launch (highly doubt this)
3. Cards aren't going out first come, first served

What else could cause orders as low as 14:04 to not have been satisfied for that card at this point?

I understand, fair enough, we'll see once the queue gets officially revealed.

 

[montymint]

I'm talking specifically about comparisons of the same card. Talking specifically about the Zotac either the following is true;

1. The ratio is way, way off and far more people ordered a Zotac than the survey suggests (possible, but unlikely)
2. OC have received and shipped in the region of 5 Zotacs since launch (highly doubt this)
3. Cards aren't going out first come, first served

What else could cause orders as low as 14:04 to not have been satisfied for that card at this point?

most likely 1, there will be a tonne of people not filling in a survey.

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

most likely 1, there will be a tonne of people not filling in a survey.

Would be a pretty even spread though (insert joke about not wanting to admit to buying a Zotac).

I don't think it's too tinfoil hattery to think that the official queue data either shows that stock coming in is way worse than anyone could imagine and people aren't getting cards for a long ass time OR cards aren't being sent out first come, first served. Either of those would be a massive salt explosion on the forum.

 

[Jed78]

Im not sure what OC would gain for not sending out first come first serve. Have to trust them I guess. Still I dont expect my MSI to come before Christmas. I'm one if the dumb ***** that sold his 2080 to fund it too

 

[aelc89]

I have been number 6 on the calculator since Monday (14.09), and stock has come in since then(with people at 14.03 receiving their cards) so I think there is just a lot of people that haven't input their order in the calculator.

 

[montymint]

Would be a pretty even spread though (insert joke about not wanting to admit to buying a Zotac).

I don't think it's too tinfoil hattery to think that the official queue data either shows that stock coming in is way worse than anyone could imagine and people aren't getting cards for a long ass time OR cards aren't being sent out first come, first served. Either of those would be a massive salt explosion on the forum.

Oh my point was not pointerd at Zotac shame. I just mean there'll be a significant number of people who've ordered cards who've not provided ANY data to that queue / survey database. It's hard to rely on something where you have to trust people to fill it in IMO.

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

Im not sure what OC would gain for not sending out first come first serve. Have to trust them I guess. Still I dont expect my MSI to come before Christmas. I'm one if the dumb ***** that sold his 2080 to fund it too

I'm not saying it's deliberate. Maybe it's based on something like payment process time.

 

[Semple]

OR cards aren't being sent out first come, first served

You have to ask yourself what would OCUK gain by dishing out cards to later orders?

Absolutely nothing...

 

[Shiari]

You have to ask yourself what would OCUK gain by dishing out cards to later orders?

Absolutely nothing...

But then people start doing napkin math on how much money they have in the bank and making wild guesses on interest, and while at that entirely ignoring expenses that are incurred at the same time (both financial and reputation wise) and having to pay suppliers as well ... indeed, nothing to gain but some think otherwise.

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

Oh my point was not pointerd at Zotac shame. I just mean there'll be a significant number of people who've ordered cards who've not provided ANY data to that queue / survey database. It's hard to rely on something where you have to trust people to fill it in IMO.

Regardless of how many filled in the survey, I think we can safely assume the splits are *somewhat* in the right ballpark. How then can a card as unpopular as the Zotac (~5%) only be at 14:03 by this point when we've had a confirmed 3-4 different batches of that same card being received by OC? Were there 2 cards in each delivery?

 

[montymint]

Regardless of how many filled in the survey, I think we can safely assume the splits are *somewhat* in the right ballpark. How then can a card as unpopular as the Zotac (~5%) only be at 14:03 by this point when we've had a confirmed 3-4 different batches of that same card being received by OC? Were there 2 cards in each delivery?

If 200 people bots ordered the £650 Zotac at 2 on the button, you'd never know unless given an official bit of data (which would be the obvious choice as cheaper cards = more profit / less risk). The bot users aren't fillign anything in - they'll just wait it out.

The big problem is that we can't possibly know how much of what was ordered unless OCUK tells us - a user filled survey cannot possibly tell you anything! Christ I could go fill it in a few hundred times just to mess with it if I was so inclide - my point is you can't trust unofficial data because it can be manipulated by anyone.

Again as others have said, they (OCUK) have no reason not to send stock out to people out of order.

 

[robin66]

You have to ask yourself what would OCUK gain by dishing out cards to later orders?

Absolutely nothing...

I agree.

And the issue is as I see it is this is one big mess with the bots trying to buy as well as people from other countries. Plus the low stock amount and how popular the card has been.

Now OUCK has been left with trying to sort this all out for their customers.

I very much doubt there is any favoritism going on here.

 

[Semple]

But then people start doing napkin math on how much money they have in the bank and making wild guesses on interest, and while at that entirely ignoring expenses that are incurred at the same time (both financial and reputation wise) and having to pay suppliers as well ... indeed, nothing to gain but some think otherwise.

Exactly, this isn't the nineties where companies would have earned a fair whack in interest from sitting on 5 million quids worth of orders.

For an easy access business account you're looking at about 0.8%. Which would mean on £5mil balance OCUK would be earning just over £100 a day. That probably doesn't even cover their business rates.

 

[Kol]

Please post in the CS forum if you wish to query your order.