Incompatible when together?

Greenlizard0

Greenlizard0

Greenlizard0

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Ok after this thread (many thanks again OcUK!!), I believe my computer will be back tomorrow. However the technician testing it said that the parts were incompatible together.

Is there anything wrong with this spec? :

AMD AM2 6000+ with Zalman Flower Cooler.
Asus M3A32 MVP Deluxe
Geil PC6400 Ram
Zalman 600W Modular PSU
Creative X-Fi Fata1ty
BFG GTS 640Mb (old type) Graphics Card (No longer Sold Here)
2xWD 500GB AAKS with Zalman Heatpipe Coolers
2x WD 36GB Raptors 16MB Cache with Zalman Heatpipe Coolers
2x Samsung SATA DVD-RW drives (No longer Sold Here)
Thermaltake Armour Case

The motherboard and PSU are new - and the former's specs indicate that it's backward compatible. Why won't this machine power on for more than a few seconds? It briefly fires up - but then it turns itself off :/
 
I can't see any reason why those parts aren't compatible. Overload maybe. Try running with only one HDD and adding them back one by one. Remember that the power supplied to HDD is constant to keep up the RPM. So the 600W may not be enough.
 
Good 535W PSU with good Amperes will beat a 600w with ****** Ampere's I think... But still, wouldn't say it's the PSU.
 
Looks totally fine to me,

Assume you've memchecked the RAM?

If everything on that front is fine I'd be tempted to sell the motherboard on and just buy a different one! Just to get it sorted! Followed your other thread and you've had enough trauma over this computer already by the sounds of it!

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I've not had another system to test the memory in the house, but as the other thread in GD says, I've sent it off to technicians here in Liverpool.

They've indicated already that all components are working fine in seperate systems. :(
 
I've essentially done the bits I could from your guide Huddy, the other things I couldn't do because of how far the system boots.

According to the technicians too - the PSU works fine..
 
The odd thing was - when I tried to build outside the case - it didn't work (same problem as before), however since the tecnician people managed to get every component working - I'm starting to believe that something new is incompatible...and the only thing that has changed is the motherboard and PSU....
 
Asus Guff said:
- CPU AMD® Socket AM2+ Phenom™ FX / Phenom X4 / Phenom X2 / Athlon™ X2 / Sempron™, AMD® Socket AM2 Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 / Sempron
- Chipset AMD 790FX / SB600
- System Bus Up to 5200 MT/s; HyperTransport™ 3.0 interface for AM2+ CPU 2000 / 1600 MT/s for AM2 CPU
- 4 x DIMM DDR2 1066 / 800 / 667 / 533 Dual channel memory
- 4 x PCIe x16 with ATI CrossFireX™ support, @ dual x16; tripple x16 / x8 / x8; or quad x8 modes
- 4 x SATA 3Gb/s ports with RAID 0, 1, and 0+1support
- 2 x SATA 3Gb/s ports with RAID 0, and 1 support
- 1 x External SATA 3Gb/s port (SATA On-the-Go)
- Marvel® PCIe Gigabit LAN controller featuring AI NET 2
- Audio ADI® AD1988 8-channel High Definition Audio CODEC
- Coaxial / Optical S/PDIF out ports at back I/O
- 2 x IEEE 1394a FireWire ports
- 10 x USB 2.0 ports (4 ports at mid-board, 6 ports at back panel)
- ASUS AI Lifestyle Features ASUS Quiet Thermal Solution:
- ASUS Fanless Design: Cool Mempipe solution
- ASUS 8+2 Phase Power Design
- ASUS AI Gear 2
- ASUS AI Nap
- ASUS Fanless Design: Heat-pipe solution
- ASUS Fanless Design: Stack Cool 2
- ASUS Q-Fan 2
- ASUS Optional Fan for Water-cooling or Passive-Cooling only
- ASUS AI Audio2
- ASUS Noise Filter
- ASUS Q-Shield
- ASUS Q-Connector
- ASUS O.C. Profile
- ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3
- ASUS EZ Flash 2
- AI ***™ (Non-delay Overclocking System)
- AI Overclocking (Intelligent CPU Frequency Tuner)
- ASUS AI Booster Utility
- Precision Tweaker 2
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Is this (bolded and underlined) fact possibly causing the incompatibility? Could this be it? I have no idea what is causing it now.

The PSU has got to be generally suitable for all computers - it'd be daft that it doesn't fit.
 
Can you get the system to POST at all with minimum components (no HDD's, not Optical, no Expansion Cards, no USB)? Essentially just the Motherboard, PSU, CPU, 1 Stick of RAM, Graphics and Keyboard.
 
ASUS 8+2 Phase Power Design

This is just to regulate the power coming and out to prevent CPU damage under load. Keeps the power stable. So I doubt this has anything to do with your problem? I have no idea why they are saying this is icompatable. Have you actually asked them?

Personally, (you may have already done this), I would strip the system to bear basics. Even booting from CD (no HHDs), see what happens. If it POSTs, then add each item back one at a time and retest.
 
I asked the guy again who is about to drop off my machine and apparently (just to confirm) he said that the motherboard did work in a seperate system but for some reason didn't work with my own components in. Whether he built it in my case or not I don't know (possible shorting as said above)..I'll ask him when he knocks round..:(
 
I suppose it could be a motherboard/memory incompatiablity problem. I had a similar problem with my P5E and Geil Ultra PC2-6400. I got the Ballistix PC2-8500 kit amd all was well. I can't see it being down to the psu. People are powering a lot more power hungry pc's than yours on less than 600w. The clear CMOS jumper is in the right position? The power and reset cables are connected to the motherboard in the right order? Just checking as it's easy to get them mixed up.
 
Would anybody be able to give me a hand in a second please? I'm trying to navigate Asus' website to find the list of its recommended RAM (an old early version is available in the book it supplies) but for the love of god I'm finding it hard to navigate :/
 
Greenlizard0 said:
Would anybody be able to give me a hand in a second please? I'm trying to navigate Asus' website to find the list of its recommended RAM (an old early version is available in the book it supplies) but for the love of god I'm finding it hard to navigate :/
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Ignore the list on Asus website as that's out of date too and never gets updated. To find out what would work in mine i used Crucials memory advisor tool on their website. It only lists Crucial memory but it is guaranteed to work. It's no help though for finding out if your current memory is compatible. Have you tried a single stick yet to see if it will post. At least then you could get into the bios to enter the correct memory voltage and timings.
 
I have tried various combinations of 1-3 sticks and nothing seems to boot. The RAM in a *different system* does work though according to the bloke who returned the machine...Just ordered some OCZ RAM. Will see if that does the trick :)
 
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