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Inno3d 3060TI TWIN X2 OC Buzzing @GRAPHICS CARD PROS

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Anyone had this before or know the possible cause. Sorry for the long post but will try and supply as much info as possible.

1st off the coil whine and buzzing in my headphones can only be heard when the GPU is under load. Desktop/General use/Youtube etc no problems.

Got a Inno3d 3060TI TWIN X2 OC Thursday from OCUK. Was really happy as id been waiting for ages to finally upgrade my old 1070 - Seemed to run well until I went into a game and put my headphones on. As soon as the GPU gets fully loaded - I get a humming/buzzing noise in my headphones.
(Checked the odvious). Put old GPU back in No buzzing ermmmm :D

I noticed the buzzing right away as soon as the GPU loaded up as Id just ran the RDR2 benchmark on my old card see the performance difference after fitting new card, the old GPU was a 1070 Inno3d Ichill x3 Hercules for reference.

Its not mega loud and doesnt increase with the volume ie its the same at 5% as it is at 50% voulme. But becomes more pronouced the lower you go with the volume to the point when gaming last night, while my girlfriend was reading a book so no background noise. I could hear it constantly in the background of the game, more so when the game gets sections where its very quite in game.

My Girlfriend also noticed there a sceeching sound coming from the PC she said :D
We tracked it down to the GPU I got her to put her head in the PC with the side off I couldnt really hear this at 1st but now ive removed all the fans from the case etc I can here it screeching/clicking away.

She said she can hear it over the TV so thats bad news.

Things I've tried.
- Stripped my tower down yesturday to make sure theres no earthing issues etc.
- Changed VGA cable from PSU to GPU
- changed the port the VGA is plugged into on the PSU
- unplugged everything but essentialls to test.
- undervolted the GPU(never done this before seems its the new overclock and what you do with the 2*** 3*** series cards)
- Ran onboard sound (this sounds crap and still buzzes) so not related to the soundcard.
- VSYNC
- capped frames to 141
- had a good read of various forums, reddit etc found fixes to try and if other people are having same issue with my hardware combo, few coilwhine issues come up but nothing really with a buzzing through headphones when the GPU's underload.

My PC spec (Everything below but the headphones purchased from OCUK)
CPU: Ryzen 3600x (stock)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Thomahawk MAX
PSU: EVGA SuperNova G2 750W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply
Ram: Team Group 8Pack Edition 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz
GPU : Inno3d 3060TI TWIN X2 OC
Few SSDs plugged in all Satas.
Soundcard: Sound Blaster Z
Monitor: Dell s2716dg GSYNC pannel
Headphones: Sennheiser HD 598 SE
Case: Silverstone TJ09

Few things I've noticed.

COD WARZONE -
This is about the worst game for the noise as the frames sit around 141 constantly high.
In total wars 2 end of turn when the FPS drop down to single digits while it calculates all the AI moves and the GPU produces single digit numbers It stops humming. As soon as the FPS go back above 60FPS it buzzes again.
RDR2 - Contsant buzzing heard through headphones. Unless in main menu.
Heaven Benchmark -Contsant buzzing heard through headphones as soon as I start the bench.

Alt tabbing out of a game to desktop - buzzing stops instantly. Alt tab back in buzzing starts within a second max.

Spent all weekend reading and trying things even got the other half involved as she can hear the coil whine much easier than my old ears.

I've undervolted the card so it drew a max of 160w indicated by Nvidia Overlay so its pulling around the same power as the previous card. Still buzzes. which ruled out something else I thought maybe its the PSU. But to be fair to the GPU its got pretty solid internals I thought it would be more than up to the job of going from a 1070 to 3060ti and googling people are running 3070 and 3080 and ti variants on the same PSU no issues.

Not sure what else to try or do. the buzzing kills the experience of the game and the mrs said the sreeching is driving her mad dam it. Normally id just RMA the card but I've waited to get a GPU since the 3070 release day. Finally got one and though the performance is very good the buzzing in my headphones gives me a headache after half an hours gaming.

Anyone got any ideas to help a brother ?
 
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It's coil whine as I think you know and have read into it, worst example i've ever heard here:


A good vid on it here :


You could try RMA but other than that hope the coils 'settle' after a few weeks of use. My new card has the worst coil whine of the cards i've ever had, it's inaudible when I have my headphone on though, yours must be a terrible pitch !
 
I really feel for you, I can't stand coil whine. Fortunately the non-OC Inno3D 3060 Ti I got for my other half has none at all.

I kept my Vega 64 in the hopes that the coil whine would go away but it never did, and it's been winding me up ever since.

It's your decision but I would try for an RMA.
 
It's coil whine as I think you know and have read into it, worst example i've ever heard here:

You could try RMA but other than that hope the coils 'settle' after a few weeks of use. My new card has the worst coil whine of the cards i've ever had, it's inaudible when I have my headphone on though, yours must be a terrible pitch !

Yer its horrible to the point its gave me an headache :( and if its driving the other half mad, its going to have to go back I think will try talking to Customer Service tomorrow see what options I have, Im guessing not a lot with the state of the market I doubt they have stock to replace the card.

Last time I really had it was on an old GTX 8800 ULTRA before Gync etc when the frames would get really high the thing would scream its head off. Not had it on any modern GPUS and Ive had a few since. But that was jeard directly from the card, Not through the headphones.
 
I really feel for you, I can't stand coil whine. Fortunately the non-OC Inno3D 3060 Ti I got for my other half has none at all.

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Typical I originally payed the extra for the OC version as I read it had a much better cooler, hoping it would be quiter as the PCs in the front room. Instead Ive spent the weekend trying to stop a buzz and whine :D
 
@Spils - When you tried the onboard sound, were the headphones plugged in to the motherboard? And is there no buzzing you (/your GF!) can hear when not using headphones?

Obviously the GPU has something to do with it, but as you say, with current availability it'd be a shame to have to return it and go back to your old card....

What I'm thinking is that you need to get the headphone cable as far from the GPU as you can manage, so a couple of suggestions you could try:

- if you haven't already, might be worth trying with the headphones plugged in to the case audio ports
- similarly you could try switching your sound output device to the monitor and plugging the headphones in to the port on that
- could try a USB/external sound card?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/crea...l-usb-sound-card-70sb171000000-sc-103-cl.html
would probably do the job, or if you wanted something a little less simple, I'd check out the Behringer range on [well known online seller :P ].
I personally use their Xenyx302USB model as a recording interface for my mic and it's very good (although I plug my phones in to my logitech surround speakers as otherwise I can hear my mic on the monitoring!)
 
Hi, can fully understand the fustration, recently got the 3080FE and it had it bad could clearly hear it over the case fans/ gpu fans and the way the pitch changed really was annoying , I did try undervolting didnt improve it enough I did try to see if I could live with it having tried for 1 week I just couldnt so returned it the replacement also has it but not as bad and with under volting and when the fans kick in during gaming I can only just hear it so I will just have to live with it

I was asked to make recording and they agreed it was bad
 
Well, that's a real shame.

Interestingly, I too have an inno3d 1070, ordered the inno3d 3060ti to replace, then swapped for the OC version after doing the same research you did. I've not had a chance to test mine though, so I'm hoping the similarities end here!!

As for the issue you're having - I've had that exact problem a few years ago and I can't for the life of me remember what came of it. I think I may have returned it in the end. Have you tried exploring different methods of plugging the headphones in? Using a sound card and plugging into the back of it, for example.

@TrojanWhore that is one hilarious name.
 
@Spils - When you tried the onboard sound, were the headphones plugged in to the motherboard? And is there no buzzing you (/your GF!) can hear when not using headphones?

Obviously the GPU has something to do with it, but as you say, with current availability it'd be a shame to have to return it and go back to your old card....

What I'm thinking is that you need to get the headphone cable as far from the GPU as you can manage, so a couple of suggestions you could try:

- if you haven't already, might be worth trying with the headphones plugged in to the case audio ports
- similarly you could try switching your sound output device to the monitor and plugging the headphones in to the port on that
- could try a USB/external sound card?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/crea...l-usb-sound-card-70sb171000000-sc-103-cl.html
would probably do the job, or if you wanted something a little less simple, I'd check out the Behringer range on [well known online seller :p ].
I personally use their Xenyx302USB model as a recording interface for my mic and it's very good (although I plug my phones in to my logitech surround speakers as otherwise I can hear my mic on the monitoring!)

To be fair the buzzing is that bad after trying everything again yesturday the buzzing in the headphones gives me an headache after about half an hour its like white noise I had to turn the PC off. Its made it unusable.

- I have tried it in output of the motherboard on the rear of the case same issue.
- I thought an HDMI cable is needed to run it through my monitor port for Audio ? Could steal the one out the TV to try i guess?
- I really dont want to buy a usb sound card I really like my Sound blaster Z its great in every other situation.

As bad as the GPU situation is I dont think I can live with this card - the buzzing after a few minutes drives me mad and after half an hour gave me an headache its not even the level of the buzzin as its not super load its just horrid and like torture. Its in the background but always there.
 
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O and just so everyone knowns I could probley deal with the coil whine - just get a new girlfriend as that bothered her more than me. Its the humming/buzzing in the headphones as soons the card comes under load in 3d mode thats drivin me mad. Does it onboard sound and my PCI-E sound card a sound blaster Z.
 
- I have tried it in output of the motherboard on the rear of the case same issue.
- I thought an HDMI cable is needed to run it through my monitor port for Audio ? Could steal the one out the TV to try i guess?
- I really dont want to buy a usb sound card I really like my Sound blaster Z its great in every other situation.
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I meant the front panel audio on the case itself - btw what case is it (don't think you listed it unless I missed it)? I've had similar issues with my old case (antec 300) and had to take it apart and ground the port to the chassis!

And fair enough on wanting to keep the soundcard, in that instance probably best to return the card, either for a replacement (if they can facilitate that) and hope you get better luck, or for a refund....I'm still on a 1070 and they're not THAT bad! :)
 
I meant the front panel audio on the case itself - btw what case is it (don't think you listed it unless I missed it)? I've had similar issues with my old case (antec 300) and had to take it apart and ground the port to the chassis!

And fair enough on wanting to keep the soundcard, in that instance probably best to return the card, either for a replacement (if they can facilitate that) and hope you get better luck, or for a refund....I'm still on a 1070 and they're not THAT bad! :)

I havent tried the front panel just the onboard sound and plugged in through the rear, as again even if it did work its not something I want to do going forward I like my wires all neat down the back of the desk. I know what youre saying but....

The case is a silverstone TJ09 from back in the day still going strong. Ill add the case to my orignal spec mate.
 
Buzzing in the audio feed isn't coil whine as such. Can you try routing the PCIe power cables a different way? Sounds like PSU noise being picked up by the audio. Is the front panel header as noisy?
 
Right Guys spent yesturday trying a few other things recommended in this thread and online and nothing seems to stop the buzzing through the headphones

Buzzing in the audio feed isn't coil whine as such. Can you try routing the PCIe power cables a different way? Sounds like PSU noise being picked up by the audio. Is the front panel header as noisy?

Cheers try telling Customer support guy I spoke to yesturday all the guy kept saying was if its Coil whine tough we are sending it back to you :( I dont think he wanted to listen to it isnt coil whine.

Tried this the PCI-e cable now goes from my psu and to the GPU without touching anything. ALso tried it in 4 different outputs on my PSU (its modular) and a few different cables.


If it is that bad i would do an exchange.
From my RMA form I can see they have put me down for a refund - which A: im not happy about all this trouble and waiting for a GPU, ID expect a replacment when stock comes in. B: I doubt Ill get it anyway as CS just kept saying "if coil whine we will send the card back".

By late last evening I'd had enough. Had the card since Thursday and all ive done is spent 3 days trouble shotting. So late last night I put my 1070 back in teh PC, and my good silence is wonderful. Had a few hours gaming on my old card and I can 100% tell the difference with headphones on. Zero back ground noise.

I also noticed my OCed 1070 runs at 170watts - 175watts and at 1.1volts on the GPU thats more than my undervolted 3060ti was set to so that deffinatly rules out my PSU as that was running 165-170 watts 0.9 volts - undervolted.

The more Ive tried the more I think its definatly something up with the card Ive tried almost everthing I can find online to try other than an external sound card as I dont have acces to one. Spoken to a close friend hes going to bring his 3070FE over the weekend so I can try that see how my PC acts with that inside.
 
If it’s coming through your headphones it’ll be Electro Magnetic Interference (EMI).

You’ll need to isolate the motherboard and audio - ideally using an external DAC/amp.
 
If it’s coming through your headphones it’ll be Electro Magnetic Interference (EMI).

You’ll need to isolate the motherboard and audio - ideally using an external DAC/amp.

Never had an issue with EMI in numerous builds I've had over various graphics cards in this case and with the same PCI-E sound card. Soons I put my old graphics card back in the PC the issue goes away.
Always had sound cards to stop issues like this in the past and always found most onboard sound to be crap and a half decent dedicated sound card to be a much better option.

Whats something half decent and not super expensive to try if OCUK send me the card back?


Is the front panel jack as noisy? I haven't seen this answered

Sorry - I havent exactly tried this but I did try the onboard sound chip just in case and the buzzin was as bad if not worse. The HD connection on this old case was crap in 2007 when I got it :D its always had loads of feedback etc when using the front panel header.

I did just plug it into the sound card to try it and yer just as bad as in its hisses and buzzes even on the desktop through that on my old GPU thats back in teh machince.

I always plug into the back of the PC to route the cable better anyway.
 
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