Input on AMD build

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Hey,

Any input on this build? I've pretty much settled on those parts but was contemplating a couple of things.

Firstly, whether to swap the Sabertooth for a cheaper UD3 and save £30 or so. Would they both perform relatively similarly or is it worth paying slightly more? I do plan to have a play with overclocking.

Secondly, do you think it would be worth spending an extra £20 to £30 on a 7870 XT, specifically the Sapphire one on this site? Would I see a significant difference in gaming performance? I'm thinking there would be less driver support for the XT and the Asus i've chosen would be a more solid card.

Any other suggestions or feedback would be great :)

edited as link has a load of competitors, please read the FAQ

AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core £143.99
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing £25.45
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ £100.38
GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 £40.99
Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" SSD £84.96
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM £50.00
Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB £182.60
Asus USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 £15.06
NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) ATX Mid Tower £96.68
Asus DRW-24B5ST 24x Internal SATA DVD Drive £20.99
Seasonic SSR-650RM 650W Modular Power Supply DC-DC PSU 80Plus Gold 5 Year Warranty £83.58
Gigabyte GK-K8100 £49.28

Total: £893.96
 
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Depends what you are doing, there is cheaper RAM + better CPU's for gaming.

Also really should link overclocker builds, not from a site comparison thing.
 
dacads said:
Not sure if there will be a performance difference with the UD3 but it might have less features or such worth checking out which ones :)

Secondly I have the 7870XT and am very impressed with the performance as it matches/beats a Radeon 7950 once overclocked :)

Thirdly I would go with some cheaper RAM that is also low-profile http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-012-AD&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517
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Thanks for the reply. I think i'm leaning towards the UD3 now since it has all the features I require at £30 less. Other than that I guess it's just brand preference and aesthetics.

After doing some more research it seems an XT might be worth it. Would you recommend the Sapphire for it's dual fan cooler or do you find the cooler on the VTX3D and Club 3D cards to be sufficient?

RAM-wise I think i'm fairly happy going with the GeIL for the sake of < £10. I know the fancy heatsinks are a bit pointless but I like the design/colour. the only issue would be whether it fits with the Mobo/CPU cooler.
 
Gibbo3771 said:
Depends what you are doing, there is cheaper RAM + better CPU's for gaming.

Also really should link overclocker builds, not from a site comparison thing.
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Apologies for the external link - should really have read the rules first.

I'll be using the machine for gaming and general use mostly. Not too fussed about the price of the RAM as it's fairly cheap anyway so not really much to save there.
 
The VTX3D version which I have myself is around £20 cheaper so yeah I would recommend it as will be better bang for buck. Although not sold at OCUK :p
 
Graphics card is fine.

Get this RAM imo:

YOUR BASKET
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB1600C9DC) £35.99
Total : £39.90 (includes shipping : £3.26).



I have no idea how well AMD takes advantage of fast RAM but 1600 seems the norm these days, this stuff is pretty much the same as you have but cheaper.

Personally I would drop the AMD thing altogether, that is just me.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM £187.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £89.99
Total : £289.38 (includes shipping : £9.50).



No need for an 8 core CPU, most games barely use 4 properly. I just prefer intel myself, normally faster and cheaper. This is pretty much what you have, except you have the extra money put into the board rather than the CPU.
 
I hear the Sabertooth can overclock really well and I think it's very popular in it's price range. Unless you are stretching your budget by buying it, I would just get the Sabertooth :)
 
Gibbo3771 said:
No need for an 8 core CPU, most games barely use 4 properly. I just prefer intel myself, normally faster and cheaper. This is pretty much what you have, except you have the extra money put into the board rather than the CPU.
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Can we sort something out, the FX 8***'s aren't real 8 core CPU like the xeons. They are amd's version of the i7 and its hyperthreading ability. In reality it is similar to the phenom x 6's of yester year.

For gaming the i5 is ahead but the 8350 isn't too far behind..

If they were the same price, 3570k everytime though fir the money, at this point in time the 8350 is a good shout.
 
Doomedspeed said:
Can we sort something out, the FX 8***'s aren't real 8 core CPU like the xeons. They are amd's version of the i7 and its hyperthreading ability. In reality it is similar to the phenom x 6's of yester year.

For gaming the i5 is ahead but the 8350 isn't too far behind..

If they were the same price, 3570k everytime though fir the money, at this point in time the 8350 is a good shout.
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Well they're not really, because HT scaling is no where near the same level as the module scaling, and well, Intel don't have 8 physical cores, AMD's FX8 do, just they share some resources.

It's an 8 core CPU, it doesn't need excuses made up for its performance lol.
 
Martini1991 said:
I wouldn't be paying 180 for a 2500k.
Especially when OCUK has had the 3570k at cheaper than 170 before.
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They had the 3570K at £150 before I think?

£180 for the 2500K is too much I agree, but I'd still rather get a Z** board and a i5 that a 8320 for gaming, there isnt much difference in it really price wise once you factor in a decent VRM AM3+ board.
 
It is an 8 core CPU, but 2 cores shares a module. So while it has 8 cores, they are not as Doom put it "real cores" because each core does not work independantly.
 
Bacon? said:
They had the 3570K at £150 before I think?

£180 for the 2500K is too much I agree, but I'd still rather get a Z** board and a i5 that a 8320 for gaming, there isnt much difference in it really price wise once you factor in a decent VRM AM3+ board.
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And there is me thinking, the OP was getting the 8350! :rolleyes::D
 
Bacon? said:
It is an 8 core CPU, but 2 cores shares a module. So while it has 8 cores, they are not as Doom put it "real cores" because each core does not work independantly.
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Thank you for explaining it more elegantly than i could. :)

Would it be right to assume that the odules work like real cores though each module is built up of 2 core which cannot interact with other module cores?

It does have 8 cores but i won't work nearly as well as any intel equivalat 8 core offering.
 
Im not entirely sure how they work but I think modules share resources like cache etc between them which is why they wont work as effectively as a "pure" 8 core cpu.
 
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