Installing a new 1070 - removing 6950

Dellboy · 2 Oct 2017 at 20:57

Probably a stupid question but other than the physical installation of the card and removing AMD drivers from the 6950 he's currently got what else do I need to do for my brother? Should I stress test it before using it or just jump into a few games?

BaroUK2 · 2 Oct 2017 at 21:01

I suggest using DDU ( Display Driver Uninstaller ) in safe mode to uninstall AMD drivers. Remove old card, install new card. It wouldnt hurt to run a superposition benchmark to make sure new card is stable.

subbytna · 3 Oct 2017 at 10:04

Download the Nvidia driver bundle first ( DO NOT INSTALL IT THOUGH) then do the DDU setup of deleting the AMD drivers, reboot, install Nvidia drivers, reboot, job done.

Dellboy · 3 Oct 2017 at 13:00

Brilliant, thanks to both of you! That's as simple as I was hoping.

pandem0nium · 6 Oct 2017 at 08:37

I'd use a unigene benchmark to test it. Heaven, valley or superposition.

arc@css · 6 Oct 2017 at 17:02

I just remove them via the control panel without any additional software like DDU, though it can be useful if things go wrong. It has come in handy once before.

Dellboy · 6 Oct 2017 at 17:10

Thanks for letting me know about ddu, worked perfectly. Now got a 1070 and 2500k combo - trying to work out which cpu to upgrade to now. Running nice and stable in pubg which is pretty much the only game he plays.

BaroUK2 · 6 Oct 2017 at 18:13

No problem at all, if you post rest of your computer spec such as current cpu, motherboard, psu, ram then i am sure you will get good suggestions...

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Zefan · 6 Oct 2017 at 20:50

In future, don't bother with DDU. It's a completely unnecessary step that can introduce problems itself. Only use it if for some reason you encounter issues with the installation of the new card. Having to do a display driver "clean" is a legacy concept from days now long passed.

For my previous 3 graphics cards I haven't even uninstaller them, I simply powered off, swapped the hardware out, powered back on and installed the new drivers. No need for anything else.

BaroUK2 · 7 Oct 2017 at 00:51

Zefan said:
In future, don't bother with DDU. It's a completely unnecessary step that can introduce problems itself. Only use it if for some reason you encounter issues with the installation of the new card. Having to do a display driver "clean" is a legacy concept from days now long passed.

For my previous 3 graphics cards I haven't even uninstalled them, I simply powered off, swapped the hardware out, powered back on and installed the new drivers. No need for anything else.

Just because you didnt have any issues doesnt mean rest of the world dont, its a free product, it is popular because it prevents most of the new card failed to work topics if used before installing new card. If his new card didnt work without using DDU you would either suggest him to use DDU or talk about his psu and other hardware lol.
I also would like to know what kind of problems does it introduce itself if you can englighten us : )

spoffle · 7 Oct 2017 at 00:58

BaroUK2 said:
Just because you didnt have any issues doesnt mean rest of the world dont, its a free product, it is popular because it prevents most of the new card failed to work topics if used before installing new card. If his new card didnt work without using DDU you would either suggest him to use DDU or talk about his psu and other hardware lol.
I also would like to know what kind of problems does it introduce itself if you can englighten us : )

I feel like you didn't really read his post.

It's popular because people do it out of habit as some people are still perpetuating the notion that you must absolutely remove all graphics drivers from a system if you're changing GPU manufacturers.

As he said, that's legacy thinking from days gone by. It's no problem having both AMD and nVidia drivers on the same system.

If something goes wrong, by all means use DDU. But it isn't a default necessary step when changing manufacturers.

You should try less of the smug and smarmy, lol.

dholdi · 7 Oct 2017 at 01:25

Also interested in the problems it introduces, but not in a smug and smarmy way, nolol.

BaroUK2 · 7 Oct 2017 at 02:01

spoffle said:
I feel like you didn't really read his post.

It's popular because people do it out of habit as some people are still perpetuating the notion that you must absolutely remove all graphics drivers from a system if you're changing GPU manufacturers.

As he said, that's legacy thinking from days gone by. It's no problem having both AMD and nVidia drivers on the same system.

If something goes wrong, by all means use DDU. But it isn't a default necessary step when changing manufacturers.

You should try less of the smug and smarmy, lol.

smug and smarmy no not all lol...
Installing DDU is not a must but its same way everyone starts off with suggesting to clear cmos everytime there is a hardware issue or after doing a bios update. Its to rule out possible issues rather then being mandatory. then to suggest it introduces other problems i had to reply sorry xD

Kaapstad · 7 Oct 2017 at 03:01

spoffle said:
I feel like you didn't really read his post.

It's popular because people do it out of habit as some people are still perpetuating the notion that you must absolutely remove all graphics drivers from a system if you're changing GPU manufacturers.

As he said, that's legacy thinking from days gone by. It's no problem having both AMD and nVidia drivers on the same system.

If something goes wrong, by all means use DDU. But it isn't a default necessary step when changing manufacturers.

You should try less of the smug and smarmy, lol.

This ^

When I swap from AMD to NVidia or back these days I tend to leave the old drivers on the system until after I have switched Vendors cards.

I don't use DDU.

I just uninstall the old drivers in the normal way then install the new ones.

Kaapstad · 7 Oct 2017 at 03:03

dholdi said:
Also interested in the problems it introduces, but not in a smug and smarmy way, nolol.

A damaged Windows installation.

DDU nukes stuff in the registry.

Psycho Sonny · 7 Oct 2017 at 10:55

Dellboy said:
Thanks for letting me know about ddu, worked perfectly. Now got a 1070 and 2500k combo - trying to work out which cpu to upgrade to now. Running nice and stable in pubg which is pretty much the only game he plays.

the best thing you could do is overclock the 2500K. no need to upgrade for 1 game.

that game runs horribly on any system. i have a 7600K, 3000mhz ram and a 1080. also have all settings on very low apart from 3 on ultra. it still doesn't hit 144hz constant. it goes down to 60-70 fps at times and averages around 100fps.

the game is craply optimised. spending £500 on a new CPU and motherboard will net him next 5-10% at best. if he overclocks his 2500K he will easily get 5% anyway. 2500K's all boost to 4.4ghz no issues at around stock volts. some even do 4.5 or 4.6 ghz on stock. many people pushed theirs to 4.8 and 5.2 ghz. bare in mind it's only 3.4 ghz stock so overclocking it is the way to go.

i went from a overclocked 2500K to a 7600K and tbh it netted me next to nothing.

mattyfez · 7 Oct 2017 at 12:30

Kaapstad said:
This ^

When I swap from AMD to NVidia or back these days I tend to leave the old drivers on the system until after I have switched Vendors cards.

I don't use DDU.

I just uninstall the old drivers in the normal way then install the new ones.

This, why complicate the situation unesssesrily.

Dellboy · 7 Oct 2017 at 16:32

It's currently overclocked to 4.4. to be honest it looks almost as smooth as my 7700k and 1070 using the same settings. Lows noticeably lower but it's rarely below 60fps for any length of time.

Doogles · 7 Oct 2017 at 18:39

Dellboy said:
Thanks for letting me know about ddu, worked perfectly. Now got a 1070 and 2500k combo - trying to work out which cpu to upgrade to now. Running nice and stable in pubg which is pretty much the only game he plays.

Drop a 3770k in the board if you can find one for around £100, I'd like to myself but can't find any on the MM. I hate how the lows stutter with BF 1 like a mad man on some maps.