Intel 10th Gen Comet Lake thread

Pannalicour · 8 May 2020 at 18:55

https://ibb.co/5YXvZq8

Is this chart showing the sec (time in seconds) or the frequency of the chips (at the bottom)?

r22snapper · 8 May 2020 at 20:59

FoxEye said:
Except the reality is that probably 90% of everyone here, would switch tomorrow if Intel pulled a rabbit out of a hat and leap-frogged AMD to re-take the lead by a similar margin as AMD have today, all else being equal ("Tomorrow" = whenever ).

Nobody wants to intentionally gimp themselves (Bulldozer owners can feel free to disagree )

Too right, imagine being excited about a chip that uses more power than a Delorean just because it does 5GHz

FoxEye · 8 May 2020 at 21:04

r22snapper said:
Too right, imagine being excited about a chip that uses more power than a Delorean just because it does 5GHz

Intel are in a bad place right now, so it's easy to say, "I'll never buy Intel again!"

If the roles ever reverse (life is cyclical

), then watch these people start buying Intel again

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 8 May 2020 at 21:06

FoxEye said:
Intel are in a bad place right now, so it's easy to say, "I'll never buy Intel again!"

If the roles ever reverse (life is cyclical ), then watch these people start buying Intel again

They will probably still be quicker in games,until Zen3 is released,so probably not all doom and gloom. At least AMD has socket longevity...oh wait!

Panos · 8 May 2020 at 21:08

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
They will probably still be quicker in games,until Zen3 is released,so probably not all doom and gloom. At least AMD has socket longevity...oh wait!

You continue the same mantra yet you cannot defend it

r22snapper · 8 May 2020 at 21:17

FoxEye said:
Intel are in a bad place right now, so it's easy to say, "I'll never buy Intel again!"

If the roles ever reverse (life is cyclical ), then watch these people start buying Intel again

People who blindly buy a brand are as stupid as people who blindly vote for a political party. If they always have your business/vote they don't need to work for it.

Grim5 · 8 May 2020 at 22:16

FoxEye said:
Intel are in a bad place right now, so it's easy to say, "I'll never buy Intel again!"

If the roles ever reverse (life is cyclical ), then watch these people start buying Intel again

That's how competition works, you buy the best product, not the brand

FoxEye · 8 May 2020 at 22:17

Grim5 said:
That's how competition works, you buy the best product, not the brand

Yup I have no brand loyalty at all. Nor any delusions that AMD would not do anything like Intel has if the tables were turned

Vega · 9 May 2020 at 06:35

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
They will probably still be quicker in games,until Zen3 is released,so probably not all doom and gloom. At least AMD has socket longevity...oh wait!

Ya, AMD has nothing that can touch my 5.4 GHz 9900K in like 99.9% of games. I will keep my eye out for Zen 3 though, I buy whatever is the fastest possible with zero brand loyalty.

Deleted User 456458 · 9 May 2020 at 06:40

Vega said:
Ya, AMD has nothing that can touch my 5.4 GHz 9900K in like 99.9% of games. I will keep my eye out for Zen 3 though, I buy whatever is the fastest possible with zero brand loyalty.

what’s your timespy cpu score? My 9900k is 5.3 but I prob have tighter timings being 2x8 vs 2x16 on mem? Curious.

FireTwo · 9 May 2020 at 07:11

Vega said:
Ya, AMD has nothing that can touch my 5.4 GHz 9900K in like 99.9% of games. I will keep my eye out for Zen 3 though, I buy whatever is the fastest possible with zero brand loyalty.

what Vcore you pushing through that to get 5.4ghz?! Sounds like you’ve won the silicon lotto jackpot

Hedge · 9 May 2020 at 07:29

It sounds like "Pc Gamers" are more obsessed with loading up a benchmark or FPS counter than actually playing a game.

Unless a game was a stuttering mess I'd quite imagine gaming at 1440p + on any mid range cpu with a decent GPU is going to be a good experience.

Intel definitely have the lead on a lot of gaming benchmarks I've seen. Although the differences are more prominent at low resolutions. At 4k the cpu becomes more or less irrelevant and that difference is a couple of percent. Noticeable only to someone obsessing with benchmarks again.

The way I see it is that if you own an RTX 2080 you're gonna have a good gaming experience on any CPU that costs more than £150. However if you are streaming and doing cpu intensive work then one CPU manufacturer is providing considerably more bang for buck right now.

LeMson · 9 May 2020 at 09:05

Pannalicour said:
https://ibb.co/5YXvZq8

Is this chart showing the sec (time in seconds) or the frequency of the chips (at the bottom)?

Multiplier?

wookiee87 · 9 May 2020 at 09:28

LeMson said:
Multiplier?

you'd be correct the bottom part of the graph is the cpu multiplier and to the left is the voltage most likely required at each multiplier stage and finally to the right is the power draw, from the looks of it around 5.2ghz+ the cpu will pull around 300+ watts! OUCH.

my 3900x at 4.4ghz all core overclock at 1.335v only pulls 147w under full load for comparison, but the fabrication process is vastly different 7nm vs 14nm

ljt · 9 May 2020 at 09:58

So have they fixed all the security holes with this generation yet? And I mean hardware fixes not micro code and software.

I'm afraid until those are properly fixed then I wouldn't even consider an Intel CPU, no matter how much faster they were.

wookiee87 · 9 May 2020 at 10:09

ljt said:
So have they fixed all the security holes with this generation yet? And I mean hardware fixes not micro code and software.

I'm afraid until those are properly fixed then I wouldn't even consider an Intel CPU, no matter how much faster they were.

10th gen is only a refresh so i'd say the security flaws are still there to an extent, i could be wrong, if so i apologize.
we'll have to see what intels upcoming 10nm products are like, i suspect being built on a different node most if not all flaws will be fixed, i hope

Cooper · 9 May 2020 at 10:21

ljt said:
So have they fixed all the security holes with this generation yet? And I mean hardware fixes not micro code and software.

I'm afraid until those are properly fixed then I wouldn't even consider an Intel CPU, no matter how much faster they were.

Lol, you have more chance of stepping out your front door, getting struck by lightning, surviving, then walking down the street and getting run over...than you have of ever being a victim of these security holes.

wookiee87 · 9 May 2020 at 10:28

Cooper said:
Lol, you have more chance of stepping out your front door, getting struck by lightning, surviving, then walking down the street and getting run over...than you have of ever being a victim of these security holes.

its not about being a victim, it the patches that Intel release that takes performance away from said chips

onion86 · 9 May 2020 at 10:55

FoxEye said:
Intel are in a bad place right now, so it's easy to say, "I'll never buy Intel again!"

If the roles ever reverse (life is cyclical ), then watch these people start buying Intel again

I've just moved over to Ryzen 3900X after being with Intel since the C2D E6300 came out, when I moved from an AMD Athlon XP. Just a bit disappointing with Intel's progress so it was time to try something new. My trusty Devil's Canyon 4790K had done me superbly since Aug 2014 though. Never say never

Cooper · 9 May 2020 at 13:08

wookiee87 said:
its not about being a victim, it the patches that Intel release that takes performance away from said chips

Then just disable them with InSpectre.