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Intel 14900KS fun!

Bennehmaru

Bennehmaru

Bennehmaru

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Hi All,

Looking for some advice as I'm now about to install the 3rd 14900KS in a machine that was only built in May.

I'm using an ASUS Z790 Maximus Formula on the latest firmware, but have had instability on both of my previous CPUs.

I've now received the new CPU but wondering if there is anything in particular I should be doing, the board is using the current intel defaults as recommended on the board, with no overclocking or under/overvolting.

I'm just trying to ensure I've done everything I can before re-building the machine this weekend.

Thanks to all suggestions in advance.
 
Bennehmaru said:
Hi All,

Looking for some advice as I'm now about to install the 3rd 14900KS in a machine that was only built in May.

I'm using an ASUS Z790 Maximus Formula on the latest firmware, but have had instability on both of my previous CPUs.

I've now received the new CPU but wondering if there is anything in particular I should be doing, the board is using the current intel defaults as recommended on the board, with no overclocking or under/overvolting.

I'm just trying to ensure I've done everything I can before re-building the machine this weekend.

Thanks to all suggestions in advance.
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I’m running a 14700K I bought here on the Members Market. The main thing I had to do to stop throttling was undervolt it using Intel® Extreme Tuning Utility. With the latest BIOS, which may lock the CPU to Intel specs, you just need to make sure VMX and undervolt protection are disabled.

Link to video not my youtube video, just he explains it also
 
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Roughneck said:
I’m running a 14700K I bought here on the Members Market. The main thing I had to do to stop throttling was undervolt it using Intel® Extreme Tuning Utility. With the latest BIOS, which may lock the CPU to Intel specs, you just need to make sure VMX and undervolt protection are disabled.

Link to video not my youtube video, just he explains it also
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Okay been taking a stab at this, I'm guessing the real goal is to stop thermal throttling?

I'm currently down to 57x on all cores with -.0060 on the offset, which is passing stress tests and getting me around 37000 in cinebench r23, does that sound about right? Goin on the video I was expect a 14900KS to get close if not above 40000.
 
I’ve being running an i714700k with an adaptive negative offset of 0.070 and it runs very well , also I put LLC to 3 and cpu lite load also to 3 but I have an MSI board ,so not sure if yours will have that option .
 
RobotGirl said:
I’ve being running an i714700k with an adaptive negative offset of 0.070 and it runs very well
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this. i run a -0.075 offset and intel stock power limits. the 900's run so hot and use so much power(in some scenario's) that overclocking or pushing more power is asking from trouble
 
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WARburton said:
stop overclocking... if you are.
if you have been through 3 cpu's id been looking at your motherboard choice, there is no way your that unlucky
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I'm not overlocking at all, left the original 2 CPUs at intel default settings and kept the BIOS up-to-date too. Both of the previous CPUs had instability, which would end up crashing in games and also randomly closing applications like outlook and teams.

I'm underclocked and undervolted have a -0.065 offset at the moment and not getting any thermal throttling now, fingers crossed this will be the one.
 
Bennehmaru said:
which would end up crashing in games and also randomly closing applications like outlook and teams
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not saying its not the CPU but this could be ram related problem too, what kit are you running.
if you have had 3 CPU's and your getting the same problem its probably not the CPU.. you know
 
So that's the thing, I've changed out the motherboard Asus Z790 Maximus Formula and changed out the memory kit too thinking it might be those, still eventually developed the same behaviour. Maybe I'm just the unluckiest person for CPUs at the moment.

I did think it might be the SSD at one point, but ran diagnostics on that and it's fine, it's really stumped me tbh! :D
 
I've not been impressed with Asus and the 14th gen to be honest and while there is some difference in sales volume and enthusiast activity their forums have far more complaints of crashing and other issues than the other brands and most of the time when people have posted here about crashing with the 13th and 14th gen it has been on an Asus board.

So far had a pretty flawless experience with a Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master and 14700K with Kingston FURY Renegade DDR5 aside from some adventures on first POST because the out the box BIOS predated the final 14th gen one.
 
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WARburton said:
not saying its not the CPU but this could be ram related problem too, what kit are you running.
if you have had 3 CPU's and your getting the same problem its probably not the CPU.. you know
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These chips have horrible tendency to fail and will almost certainly fail over time.
 
Bennehmaru said:
So that's the thing, I've changed out the motherboard Asus Z790 Maximus Formula and changed out the memory kit too thinking it might be those, still eventually developed the same behaviour. Maybe I'm just the unluckiest person for CPUs at the moment.

I did think it might be the SSD at one point, but ran diagnostics on that and it's fine, it's really stumped me tbh! :D
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How are you getting on now?

Nobody seemed to ask or I didn't see where you mentioned what cooling you have been using or what your max temps were running r23 etc

Also, are you using a (Thermalright) contact frame?
 
faceman123 said:
intel 14th Gen should be a recall. Honestly beyond a joke, anyone defending them is literally self exposing themselves as a die hard fan boy.
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Eh?

So far at retail the 14th gen has half the failure rate of the AMD 7000 despite some slightly elevated issues with the 14900 SKUs.
 
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jigger said:
Eh, the 13/14th i9s are dropping like flies, especially considering the tiny sales figures.
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As before I've posted actual data showing that claims of them dropping like flies is rubbish. As to sale figures that is another story again.
 
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