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Intel claims its new memory tech will usher in 8K gaming

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Most of us aren’t playing games anywhere near a 4K resolution, but this hasn’t stopped Intel and Micron from claiming they’ve made a breakthrough that will enable us to enjoy 8K gaming.
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http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/intel-claims-its-new-memory-tech-will-usher-in-8k-gaming/

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Looks like Intel and Micron are worried about the impact of HBM2 then lol.

I think we have seen all the claims in the article somewhere else.:)
 
It's not as fast as ram
It will further increase the speed of future SSDs but I don't see how that can help with 8k gaming apart from slightly reduced loading times
 
Anything faster is better. But how much of a performance boost can we expect when running a ram drive does not even make things significantly faster vs ssd?
 
Kaap is right - SSDs are mostly limited by interface at the moment. the pure speed demons are ssd pci-e - why you're starting to see a lot of laptops shipping more with micro ssd pci-e cards.

They are a lot more than standard ssd......and freaking tiny; and if you don't have interface card or a laptop that has that built into; a pain in the butt to get data off off :D
 
Kaapstad said:
Probably not.:(

The problem with SSDs is the interface not the drive which limits speed.

I have a Revodrive that can manage 1.7gbs a second but it has to run in a PCI-E slot to do it.
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Thank god for pci-e m2 slots then now. We need boards with several of these on though.
 
There never seems to be much movement in the filetransfer of small files, that seems to need more work than raw bandwidth. Not that raw bandwidth is bad, got my eye on one of those sexual m.2 drives for my next build but I suspect it won't really lead to programs and games loading all that much faster given most of the things they are dealing with are tiny. Video editing and the like seem to be the things that really benefit from the bandwidth side of things.

I'm guessing that SSDs still process things in a serial sense or is limited by the number of parallel commands it can run? Not something I'm really up on but that's my impression.
 
See when I read it was 1000x faster than an SSD, I thought that it would surely be faster than RAM which made no sense, but at the same time my SSD doesnt really feel like its more than 1000x slower than RAM currently, although I guess its actually true.

I kind of think if this becomes a thing then the bottleneck would become the processor, will we really be able to load windows in 2 seconds or will the cpu not be able to handle that much throughput ?
 
The 1000x thing is BS, the metric used is latency. Plus it's merely "theoretical max" which is a concept I'm sure everyone here has bumped into at some point.
 
If you look at Nand on a per cell basis, it is very slow. The 1000x speed could be when comparing cell read/write speeds and latency.

The only reason that SSD's have their read speeds is because the cells are utilised in parallel. so the overall read speed is faster.
 
Ash0787 said:
See when I read it was 1000x faster than an SSD, I thought that it would surely be faster than RAM which made no sense, but at the same time my SSD doesn't really feel like its more than 1000x slower than RAM currently, although I guess its actually true.

I kind of think if this becomes a thing then the bottleneck would become the processor, will we really be able to load windows in 2 seconds or will the cpu not be able to handle that much throughput ?
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In relations to your processors capability to crunch numbers. even system memory is slow. which is why processors have caching mechanisms to help alleviate memory read bottlenecks.

So if system ram is slow. even an SSD is at a snails pace compared to processing capability.
 
On a related note, I always wondered what the impact to graphics cards would be by running an SSD via the PCI-E slot? Surely it must impact bandwidth compared to Sata, and might it impact performance of SLI/Crossfire?
 
Scougar said:
On a related note, I always wondered what the impact to graphics cards would be by running an SSD via the PCI-E slot? Surely it must impact bandwidth compared to Sata, and might it impact performance of SLI/Crossfire?
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it is all in lane number. if cpu supports enough pci-e lanes to drive couple of gpus and an ssd, then you are fine, but if not, then we have an issue.

regarding faster ssds, I have NVMe intel 750 series over pci-e 4x. In benchmarks it is blazingly fast, couple of games load very fast, but the rest of the games and even OS do not take any advantage out of this SSD. We need OS and games to actually take advantage of the speeds ssds are offering.
Intel ssd offers around 400k IOPS, yet cannot really feel it, and worst of all, Euro Truck Simulator 2 is lagging every time the games autosaves or starts loading new map area. I mean if the game starts to slowdown when it autosaves your progress into superfast SSD, then you know that SSD is a bit ahead of its time.
 
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