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Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 Preview from Taiwan

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Looks very impressive indead

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2771

Conroe Pricing


CPU Price
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (2.93GHz/4M) $999
Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 965 (3.73GHz/2Mx2) $999
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 (2.67GHz/4M) $530
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 (2.40GHz/4M) $316
Intel Pentium D 960 (3.60GHz/2Mx2) $316
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 (2.13GHz/2M) $224
Intel Pentium D 950 (3.40GHz/2Mx2) $224
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 (1.86GHz/2M) $183
Intel Pentium D 940 (3.20GHz/2Mx2) $183
Intel Pentium D 930 (3.00GHz/2Mx2) $178
Intel Pentium D 920 (2.80GHz/2Mx2) $178
Intel Pentium D 820 (2.80GHz/1Mx2) $133
Intel Pentium D 805 (2.66GHz/1Mx2) $93



The price of the new 805 looks like an insanly good price if you want to get yourself a nice office PC

The price of the E6400 looks very tempting as well.
 
I'd like to see the Core 2 compared with the regular X2s at equivalent price points, perhaps with an overclocking comparison also.
 
In case we weren't clear: we acquired, built, installed and tested these two test systems entirely on our own and without the help of Intel.
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Finally! And at last they compare both rigs on DDR2. X6800 @2.93GHz look to have a rough 20% edge over FX62 (hmmm, I thought that's what they said about the E6700 @2.67GHz?)

For the Dells of the world, Conroe availability shouldn't be too much of an issue because companies like Dell get first dibs. For years of not going with AMD, all while demanding something more competitive from Intel, you better believe that Dell is going to soak up every last Conroe that it can.

The problem then becomes what happens after Dell and HP have eaten their lunch, unfortunately the concern is that aggressive pricing won't be enough to reduce retail demand for Conroe. What we're worried about happening is a very small supply of Conroes on the retail market in late Q3/early Q4, resulting in much higher street prices than what you see in the table above. In the worst case scenario for Intel, Conroe's limited retail availability could result in a price to performance ratio equal to or worse than AMD's Athlon 64 X2.
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:( :( :(
 
Sounds as though its gonna be a real struggle to get one @ retail for the 1st few months which is really lame as who wants a Dell/HP just to get a Conroe.

Also the X6800 does not exactly destroy the FX62 as much as expected so real world performance is still a mystery as you can bet Conroe is not optimised for current benchmarks due to the architecture changes.
 
quite frankly its obviously faster. but in other previews you have to notice one thing, ok gaming way way under the gpu limits brings into play cpu limits. but at 1600x1200 with aa/af at high levels thereby putting the gpu at its limit then the conroe and ath 64's are within a few frames. i do like my amd chips, i've had a 2.4c, 2.8c, 3.0c, 3.2c, 3.2 prescott and i had some ES chip but i've forgotten what it was now, so i've used a lotta intels and know whats going on and simply the ath 64 was ahead in so many areas and for gaming for sure. i liked price and performance but the conroe for cpu duties is faster. and a $316, £200 4mb cache conroe seems to be the cpu that will spank any ath 64/fx/x2 and be on par with the cheapest amd x2 :( sad day for amd, but a good day for my wallet i guess.

as for overclocking, a few have hit the high 3Ghz with air cooling. something amd simply can not do. for now, with intel on 0.65nm cpu's the stock speeds and overclocks can't be matched by amd. when amd get the 2 socketed boards going and some 0.65nm then we'll see whats going on. but 4 cored conroe's are slated for early 2007 aswell so. well, it looks like the next year intel have a very very very good lineup.
 
hmm, stupid anandtech review compares a 2.93ghz vs a 2.8ghz setup. want like for like comparrisons to get an idea of the core itself and not the clock speed.
 
drunkenmaster said:
as for overclocking, a few have hit the high 3Ghz with air cooling. something amd simply can not do. for now, with intel on 0.65nm cpu's the stock speeds and overclocks can't be matched by amd. when amd get the 2 socketed boards going and some 0.65nm then we'll see whats going on. but 4 cored conroe's are slated for early 2007 aswell so. well, it looks like the next year intel have a very very very good lineup.
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Opterons can hit 3ghz on air, hell even some dualcores can do that. Keep in mind AMDs always start at much lower clockspeeds (about 1ghz lower on average).
 
Cyber-Mav said:
hmm, stupid anandtech review compares a 2.93ghz vs a 2.8ghz setup. want like for like comparrisons to get an idea of the core itself and not the clock speed.
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What the hell are you on about?! They are comparing the two top CPU's, one from Intel and one from AMD.

If they compared a 2.8Ghz vs a 2.8Ghz then all you would find out is which CPU has the highest IPC. Are you suggesting that a P4 2.4Ghz should be benched against an A64 3800 2.4Ghz?
 
Isn't it gay that retail buyers have to fight or get higher pricing thanks to companies like dell and hp?

Even without buying a dell computer, I'm getting hell from them. ;)
 
No, what's gay is using gay as a negative epithet.

Such is the nature of a free market economy. If there is a limited supply, as there will be, and demand is high, as it will be, prices will go up. Intel's droopped the prices on the Pentium D, especially the 805, becasue demand was low. It's just the market seeking equillibrium. One thing that even in the Netburst years Intel has have over AMD is that their production capacity is huge. After a few months production yields will go up and I suspect that there will not be crippling shortages.
 
BillytheImpaler said:
No, what's gay is using gay as a negative epithet.
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Aren't you using it too? :p

BillytheImpaler said:
Such is the nature of a free market economy. If there is a limited supply, as there will be, and demand is high, as it will be, prices will go up. Intel's droopped the prices on the Pentium D, especially the 805, becasue demand was low. It's just the market seeking equillibrium. One thing that even in the Netburst years Intel has have over AMD is that their production capacity is huge. After a few months production yields will go up and I suspect that there will not be crippling shortages.
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True dat, just hope Intel would release more to retail and not pull a Xbox360 on us.
 
Dr Jones said:
True dat, just hope Intel would release more to retail and not pull a Xbox360 on us.
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Well they're not going to tell their best customers, Dell and HP, to go suck a lemon. The only way to avoid a 360-style shortage, assuming that production capacity is nota ble to keep up with demand as the article does suggest, is to delay the launch and stockpile chips from the early batches until the release date is met. That's not going to happen either.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
hmm, stupid anandtech review compares a 2.93ghz vs a 2.8ghz setup. want like for like comparrisons to get an idea of the core itself and not the clock speed.
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i agree but i think they are aiming to test 'flagship' Vs 'flagship' on that review which you cant really fault them for.
 
its clearly a decent wedge faster, they don't have a 2.8Ghz conroe at all 2.66 or 2.93, anything else would have diff mem/fsb speeds and be different anyway. fact is you can EASILY, very easily tell that at 2.8Ghz the conroe would win also. AMD know there cpu's are now gonna be slower, they are prepping new core K8L(but not soon enough) and have clearly decided to throw the gauntlet down by releasing this 2 socket motherboard design. quite frankly its a easyish thing to get out(given a little time), board wise they won't need more chipsets or anything for the extra cpu thanks to the 3x ht links they can whack into a ath 64 if wanted(or enable those links, whatever).

i think on xtremesys there is a (on quite mad and LOUD cooling) conroe i think just broken 4Ghz ON AIR> amd can't get within, if really really really lucky on some of their fx62's we might be talking 3.4Ghz, 3.2Ghz is still a push i'd say for most fx62's. they are slower clock for clock, and thanks to overclocking could easily be 400Mhz down after overclocks on low voltages, and possible a lot more with a bit more juice(think it was 1.9v that the cpu hit 4ghz :p ).

problem is the cheapest 4mb cache cpu will be $316, very similar in cost to the 3800+/4000+ at 1.8 or 2Ghz? but i think its 2.4Ghz stock for that conroe, similar price stock speeds are much higher. and overclocking seems to be way better on conroe's. amd got done, good and proper. i thought maybe amd's dual cores would be out first as they've been with dual cores for a while now with, but intel have them slated for very early 2007 :(
 
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