Intel Core “Skylake-S” CPUs to sport advanced power supply circuitry

TheF34RChannel · 31 Jul 2015 at 14:56

Intel Corp.’s “Devil’s Canyon” processors have demonstrated that it is possible to significantly improve overclocking potential of a central processing unit without re-spinning it by revamping its power supply circuitry. As it appears, Intel’s new “Skylake-S” microprocessors with unlocked multiplier will also feature a very advanced power supply circuitry, which will improve their overclocking potential.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/c...ors-to-sport-advanced-power-supply-circuitry/

Steampunk · 31 Jul 2015 at 15:00

Every single time Intel says "our new chip will be an amazing overclocker", and every time it's proved not to be the case.

redrooster303 · 31 Jul 2015 at 15:07

Why they go to all that trouble and don't have a soldered chip is beyond me. I know intel reckon they can't cost effectively solder separate batches of chips (as they all go through the same end process machines as the lower chips) but I ask, why not?

I would be willing to pay the extra, it can't be too much for them to have the 6700 s's running through a different heat spreader machine surely. Ah well.

Orangey · 31 Jul 2015 at 15:22

They say the chips are now too dense and tiny to use solder. Supposedly the dies are now so small there is not enough surface area to guarantee a reliable degree of adherence using solder. Imagine you're boxing something up, you want to seal the box with tape but you only get a sliver of tape on one flap and it pops open. So you have to redo the seal with more contact area.

Boomstick777 · 31 Jul 2015 at 16:27

Looking forward to seeing the Skylake Xeon's.

Wonder how low the TDP on Xeon 1230L replacement (If there is one) will be..

Dave2150 · 31 Jul 2015 at 17:40

Steampunk said:
Every single time Intel says "our new chip will be an amazing overclocker", and every time it's proved not to be the case.

Intel haven't said anything publicly whatsoever about Skylake's overclocking prowess, yet.

Sin_Chase · 1 Aug 2015 at 01:25

Steampunk said:
Every single time Intel says "our new chip will be an amazing overclocker", and every time it's proved not to be the case.

I don't think that is a fair statement in all honesty. We are spoilt really, the % overclocks we achieve on even average clocking chips is huge compared to the stock bought speeds.

Orangey · 1 Aug 2015 at 01:38

4.4 -> 4.6 is not what I'd call huge.

Sin_Chase · 1 Aug 2015 at 01:50

Orangey said:
4.4 -> 4.6 is not what I'd call huge.

Depends which chip you are talking about and whether you are including boost clocks as stock clocks or not.

The reality is, outside of benchmarking the chips are grossly overpowered and more than capable for gaming purposes alone.

Orangey · 1 Aug 2015 at 18:05

No. CPUs are holding back many games. It's a fallacy that I hope you won't continue to spread.

McGraw · 2 Aug 2015 at 01:45

Sin_Chase said:
Depends which chip you are talking about and whether you are including boost clocks as stock clocks or not.

The reality is, outside of benchmarking the chips are grossly overpowered and more than capable for gaming purposes alone.

Not for the stuff I play.

Scougar · 2 Aug 2015 at 11:33

Can you provide done info on what chip density has to do with soldering on the heat spreader?

MumboJumbo · 2 Aug 2015 at 12:49

Orangey said:
No. CPUs are holding back many games. It's a fallacy that I hope you won't continue to spread.

I've always been of the impression that CPUs aren't holding back games, especially when you consider that all their cores are not really being utilized properly yet. Seems to me that FPS drops are almost always caused by a lack of GPU power.

So I'm curious on your take, care to share?

lawrence281 · 2 Aug 2015 at 14:09

Reading the comments, doesn't really sound like a big deal.

No point selling my i7 4770K ?

kaku · 2 Aug 2015 at 15:41

5GHz+ on air am I right :rolleyes:

MumboJumbo · 2 Aug 2015 at 15:49

lawrence281 said:
Reading the comments, doesn't really sound like a big deal.

No point selling my i7 4770K ?

Is there actually anything you do that even requires more CPU power?

If the answer is no, it's pretty irrelevant of if skylake turns out to be decent or not. There would still be no point in upgrading other than because you want to have the new stuff, which arguably makes whether or not it's much of an improvement irrelevant.

Boomstick777 · 2 Aug 2015 at 17:20

lawrence281 said:
Reading the comments, doesn't really sound like a big deal.

No point selling my i7 4770K ?

Yup, but Skylake looks great for small form factors, low power / good gaming performance. Just not that interesting for high end enthusiasts. For a tangible upgrade would need to look at X99 or Skylake -E whenever it arrives.

Orangey · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:16

Something I've not seen discussed... does desktop Skylake do wireless charging? Maybe with a mobo header for it, and a case that supports it... dunno how it works.

Chugz · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:28

I thought they were removing the FIVR on Skylake - wasn't that their own "revolutionary" power control?

lawrence281 · 2 Aug 2015 at 20:59

MumboJumbo said:
Is there actually anything you do that even requires more CPU power?

If the answer is no, it's pretty irrelevant of if skylake turns out to be decent or not. There would still be no point in upgrading other than because you want to have the new stuff, which arguably makes whether or not it's much of an improvement irrelevant.

Not really, mostly gaming, but us geeks like new and shiny objects..just wondering what the price ranges for atleast an I5 would be on release.

I got my i7 4770k for about £210 on x-max, new which was a good find.
Shame I haven't got enough posts for MM, on ebay itsell for around £170+fees