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Intel Demos 14nm Broadwell: Up to 30% Lower Power than Haswell

flinco said:
Looks like I wont need to upgrade my i5 750 for another 5 years then, no real improvements to come.
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Same here

Got my 2600k sitting at 4.8ghz with a bit more headroom to spare I think I could push 5ghz

Don't see anything on the horizons that will make me think about upgrading my CPU in the near to medium future. From a gaming desktop point of view
 
flinco said:
Looks like I wont need to upgrade my i5 750 for another 5 years then, no real improvements to come.
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I don't know about that.

I could quite easily see a 150% if not closer to 200% improvement moving to a 4.6+Ghz 4930K from my stock W3680 (i7 980X).

So you would certainly see some improvement moving to Haswell!!
 
Concorde Rules said:
I don't know about that.

I could quite easily see a 150% if not closer to 200% improvement moving to a 4.6+Ghz 4930K from my stock W3680 (i7 980X).

So you would certainly see some improvement moving to Haswell!!
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In terms of gaming though, the improvement would be minimal, especially at 1440p. As long as my GPU is running at 99% most of the time, I'm happy.
 
nick.lidgett said:
So, reading between the lines a bit here, what youre saying is, at the moment it looks like haswell is the last "desktop" processor coming from intel for a while???
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IIRC in the same package as we currently have yes. In the future there will be Enthusiast level and Server/Workstation Cpus that will retain their current package type but Intel has invested a lot of money into the development of the NUC and in future all entry/desktop intel CPUs will come in BGA package.
 
People are also forgetting the current Intel nodes are probably optimised for lower voltage and higher clockspeeds at lower voltage,instead of higher maximum clockspeeds.
 
I'd much rather they ditch the iGPUs on some or all of the i7s in future generations to direct all the resources to CPU power for those who will be using a discrete GPU.
 
Sampsy said:
I'd much rather they ditch the iGPUs on some or all of the i7s in future generations to direct all the resources to CPU power for those who will be using a discrete GPU.
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I'm literally going to cry if AMD ditches their octo/non gpu versions. Intel really need to make a break in the product line where AMD did. Having the same chip for overclocked chips that will go over 200W when clocked and down as low as 5W(fake) 13W(real) is just daft. Low end chip buyers are paying WAY more than required for a very unoptimised chip and high end chip buyers aren't getting the performance improvements possible.

The AMD split of 3-25w on Jaguar and 30-35W and up on Kaveri is hugely hugely more sensible. If Intel had done that, and they can well afford to have three chips, they would improve their phone offerings by making an atom for phones and very low end tablets only(ie make atom 0.5-2W rather than whatever it is now), a new high performance mobile chip for tablets/low end laptops which would save significant cash, be much smaller, cheaper with better performance at the same power as a Haswell with better battery life. Meaning their tablets/low end laptops and a cheaper range of ultra books all suddenly become closer to competitive with arm versions. Then they can focus on stretching out the ruddy high end, making some non IGP versions for gamers and those strictly focused on performance.

Meh, as long as Steamroller has an octo version and is pretty decent I'll be well happy. As it stands Intel not focusing on high end performance while the industry(particularly gaming due to consoles) switches to multi threaded, and pushing a poor overall design into the lowest power area's is giving AMD a chance. They are improving high end performance and have made an excellent low power chip. The only area they can't compete is in outright performance is likely to be midrange chips by next year... but that is the one area where people aren't really looking for outright performance but usability, and their APU's are doing very well with that and on price which is also a big sales driver in the midrange area.

I think if Intel had done what AMD had, made two separate specific architectures for those two key areas(and done it as well as most of their stuff in the past 6-7 years) they could have completely boned AMD.
 
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