Intel finally take the fight to AMD! (Kind of*)

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The W9 3495X is now available, not really what was promised/hinted at and it seems we can’t get the full potential from DDR5 on the desktop yet, unsure what Intel have been doing in that regard… but Sapphire rapids is fast as.

ASRock, Asus and EVGA all offering retail stylee boards.

 

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490Watts....

4th Gen Intel Xeon W9-3495X – It’s a monster - KitGuru

Intel's 4th Gen Xeon aka Sapphire Rapids has had such a long and troubled gestation that these new C

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Performance requires power. No way around that, especially for Intel. 56 cores beating 64 is impressive.

Let loose I’m sure the W9 3495X is able to pull at lot more.

 

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Is it? Is this empathy for Intel? Its not beating a 3 year old last gen CPU at 70% more power.

It’s a good effort on Intel’s part and much improved over the desktop situation. It’s progress in the right direction.

AMD have neglected Threadripper somewhat. I’d like to see some more effort. Frequency optimised 1S EPYC maybe, even if that is just on the low end parts. 9124FP and 9254FP at £1200ish £2400 respectively.

 

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At 513 Watts and it only just beats out AMD's now 3 year old CPU running at near half the power.

A 64 core Zen 4 will crush this let alone the 96 core.

How to you even cool a half KW CPU? In terms of a product, whose going to buy these?

With a big arse water block and 140/180/200.3 rad.

 

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Completely flawed comparison. Performance doesn't scale linearly with power. You are assuming, wrongly, that if you push the tr to 400 watts it will perform much faster.

Proper efficiency comparisons are done at same wattage, anything else is just flawed.

Not really. Every electronic thing has an optimal power curve. Intel and AMD are miles apart, that’s what is being expressed.

 

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Intel doesn't need to have the best performance to sell a product.

It has to hit specs and have good support and good availability and if AMD doesn't put in the effort then businesses won't even have the opportunity to buy AMD. The Intel partner will be offering them a product containing an Intel cpu and that's the choice.

Where's the equivalent literal army of partners marching out to offer AMD based solutions.

Maybe not, but the tide has turned on Intel’s win default. The market has moved on and Intel are miles behind. Sapphire rapids is small step forward.

 

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I want to see reviews of the 12 and 16 core parts. Compare them against Ryzen 7900 and 7950. How much performance do you lose in return for being able to use 1+ TB of RAM? And how much will the package cost?

The price of entry is very high. Motherboards cost is circa £1500, £400 for the 6core and £150-250 for moderate cooling.

 

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£900, actually, for the Asrock W790. I hope those that only support the W-2400 CPUs will be rather cheaper. Indeed, with the number of PCIe lanes supported you could strip out a lot of stuff on that board: the 10 Gb ethernet, the U.2 connector, the wifi, 2 of the front USB, possibly more. And a Supermicro board is £740.

Depends on the board. I’ve seen prices of near £1800. What’s the model of the supermicro? That’s by far the lowest price I’ve seen.

 

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Seems very few people know this platform exists.

Review of the Asus Pro WS W790 ACE

The ASUS Pro WS W790 ACE Is... Kind Of Weird

Wendell checks out the WS W790 ACE. It's pretty weird!**********************************Check us out online at the following places!https://bio.link/level1te...

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The ASUS Pro WS W790 is ~£1200 and the ACE is ~£350 cheaper. Considering the spec, they don’t seem bad compared to how much desktop boards are. Wish they wouldn’t integrate 10Gb Nic’s, that would drop the price a bit and I don’t trust ASUS NIC’s anymore.

I suppose it depends on if you need fast networking and/or the PCI-E slots.