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Intel getting back into HEDT? Sapphire Rapids coming the mainstream

Something MLID doesn't mention, he doesn't go into too much depth on archer . Sapphire rapids uses gracemont cores (the same big cores found on alder lake) and there is no little cores.

I find that very interesting because I'm amazed that they have engineering samples of sapphire rapids with 56 big cores at just 350 to 400w.must be some seriously high quality silicon

Doing some quick backnof the napkin math, taking alder lakes big core performance and adjusting down as the rumour says sapphire rapid reaches only 4ghz and then adjusting down some more for a lower bound (3ghz) I can get the likely range of performance for such a chip.


If real the 56 core sapphire rapid chip would score anywhere between 80k and 105k points in cinebench R23 depending on how high the all core clocks go. The 3990x scores 75k at stock and 3970x 45k at stock
 
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LePhuronn said:
The P cores are Golden Cove, the E cores are Gracemont.

He also mentions there are a few tweaks too, so the Golden Cove in Sapphire Rapids is not the same as the Golden Cove used in Alder lake's P cores.
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My bad mixed up the names, Intel is so confusing with all their code names
 
LePhuronn said:
56 tweaked Golden Cove cores, not Gracemont; there are no E cores in Sapphire Rapids. To that end, up to 56 P cores should be hella tasty, but monstrously hungry and hot. Especially if Intel do go balls-to-the-wall and do a 5GHz boost as MLID posits. Over 400W I think he mentioned?

However, I don't think the 56 core is HEDT Sapphire Rapids, that's still the server part. The HEDT part falls into the "MCC" category (mid core count), so probably capped at 36 or maybe 40. That'll be easier for the 400W 5GHz boost.
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5ghz all core with 56 P cores, while I doubt it's possible without LN2 and way over 400w, it would score crazy high - somewhere around 135k in Cinebench R23, nearly double the score for a stock 3990x.

Perhaps it can do 5ghz on one or a few cores but I suspect all core clocks will be somewhere between 3ghz and 4ghz
 
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