Intel Meltdown and Specter fixes hampering Intel's gaming performance?

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Amongst all the Ryzen 2### reviews horrorwood <credit to him, spotted something in the Anand reviews.

I'm not going to fill this thread with slides but a good example is here, Ryse of the Tomb Raider is usually Intel's performance win, and yet....



That's a common trend with the Anand review: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600

Could this be why?

We ran our tests on a fresh version of RS3 + April Security Updates + Meltdown/Spectre patches using our standard testing implementation.

There has always been speculation about just how much of a performance hit Intel would be taking patching all the security holes in their CPU's, is this the answer?

 

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Need something to hide the gaming performance of the 2700x lol

lol, ok i'll give that is mildly funny

 

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Canned benchmark vs actual gameplay? Different map? ^^^^

 

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From your website

Update: A number of comments have noted that some of our gaming numbers are different to other publications. To clarify, we used the latest ASUS 0508 BIOS (on X470), full Windows RS3 + updates, Spectre/Meltdown patches, and updated gaming titles. We are reviewing the data.


"Reviewing the data"

Yes, they used The Intel security fixes, that's the point of this debate.

 

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People please read the content of the thread before going crazy in it, Anand may have been the only ones who actually botherd to patch windows and update to the latest BIOS to fix Intel's security vulnerabilities, that may be the reason for the performance differences, as they themselves have pointed out.

So you agree these fixes gimp 80-90fps from tomb raider? If this was the case, Intel has some drama coming ;p

How on earth did you arrive at that conclusion?

 

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Other sites like TPU also show 0% increase between the stock 1800X 3.6Ghz and an overclocked 4.2Ghz 2700X but at stock a small gain... other reviewers are also finding much higher gains than others.

This whole Ryzen 2 review is a mess, again with one review contradicting the next.

 

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I don’t think they are all part of the auto Windows updates.

Last i heard Linus Torvalds let the cat out of the bag Intel were arguing home PC users don't need these security fixes.

 

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TLDR : Humbug explain it to me later

Before or after Stellaris?

someone please copy and paste my posts on the review thread I cant be bothered to retype all that stuff.

Make it a summery?

 

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ROTTR

Only have a 1080 Ti so that will have to be close enough. I used one of the cards.

1080p FXAA high settings. 8700k.

Fully patched BIOS and I'm running Windows 10 Spring Update 1803 (17133.1)

Anandtech is full of crap and needs to run all of the benchmarks again.

Mountain Peak? the slide says Valley. now i see how you got to your conclusions, i'll say it again, you're running a different benchmark.

 

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Just out of my own interest in this.... the game is installed on a mechanical drive so ignore those minimums they are a symptom of mechanical drive load stutter.

Other than that i'm pretty much stock GTX 1070 bound in the this rather than overclocked Ryzen 1600.

 

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Nice minimums

Yeah i explained, mechanical drive..... its just because of slow loading from them.

 

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"60% of the time my athlon is faster everytime"

I am still lacking the understanding of what this thread is about so im just contributing in my own way.

The cringe is real with that one Harry