Intel or AMD for gaming pc.

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For a gaming PC.

Got around £1200 to build around EVGA GTX 780.

Can easily fit around AMD but struggling with Intel.

Need it to be prebuilt, really can't build my own so please don't suggest!

I will literally just be gaming!

Thanks
 
Bart_Hunt said:
Gainward makes very good cards and Phantom is a really good one.
It also looks awesome, I think it looks even better than evga cards.
Evga is a nice premium card, but there are many other good brands.
My 770 is from Gainward as well and I absolutely love it.
Its quiet, cool and looks great.
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I'm quite part illiterate so to speak and I watched a video on the EVGA and was impressed by the performance, how does the gainward compare?
 
Avenged7Fold said:
Someone spec this guy a 1080p monitor too :(

With those two games and £1200 in mind, i wouldn't think its a crime to spec a monitor upgrade and an AMD build if the man wants a monitor upgrade. In terms of fps, i doubt a gamer would notice without fraps telling you. If it wasnt pre-build, you would probably be able to go intel + monitor.

Will OP be overclocking? Because if he isnt, there is money to be saved and considering the OP isnt prepared to build it himself, then i doubt overclocking was in his plans too.

Are you open to other graphic card suggestions? As 780 is a lil overkill for under 1080p and even at 1080p, a 280x will do fine and could save you a chunk of money.
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Thanks for everyone for the numerous replies.

Originally I was looking at this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...ktdetailseite&emcs2=GX-182-GW&emcs3=FS-362-OE

With a Samsung SSD and EVGA 780 GTX.

I'm open to all suggestions, all I really want is a future proof PC which gives me the graphics to make my friends who are on ps4/xbox ones jealous.

I would quite happily go down the AMD route in a bid to purchase an updated monitor, however I could probably afford a new monitor around February time anyway. I currently have a Samsung Syncmaster 2032 BW and I must have had it for 6+ years now! I was thinking that after spending £1000 on a new PC then this monitor would be sub par for performance

With regards to the graphics card I would also like to make sure it is futureproof, thus the EVGA 780GTX is just in my budget and I can easily add one in the future if required!
 
Avenged7Fold said:
What you want to spend is wasted in your resolution but 1080p monitors can be had for cheap now, far cheaper than before. If you wont be overclocking a decent framerate + build + a 24" LED 60hz monitor is doable but if you want to leave it till feb so you can get maybe an even better monitor and concentrate on pimping the pc out now, then the specers are just as happy as you are. The system you suggested would eat Crysis 2 at 1080p for breakfast.


not really an intel vs amd but rather a 'Spec me a prebuilt, dont care if its intel or amd'
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Choices! Any suggestions? I really cannot make a decision! I like the idea of having a new monitor as well now...
 
Avenged7Fold said:
Well, with the idea of upgrading eventually anyway in the near future, could you add anything to the budget now?

You could even just have the intel system, scrap the SSD for now and get that in February. This would just require a fresh installation of windows when you get the new drive and will not change the overclock the system comes with. Do it like this and at the end of the day, you can end up with ALL the parts you originally wanted but with the monitor AND the intel build now. :)

Though to do that, you need a hard drive until then. Any will do, from a laptop or current desktop or even a dirt cheap 200gb HDD.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-112-IY&groupid=17&catid=510
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I think I may build around AMD. And get a new monitor...

Will the AMD be as futureproof as the Intel i7?

Budget is maxed out mate! haha
 
P4Clock said:
or go intel. you should still have the funds needed to have OcUK or a friend build it for you.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 WindForce 3x OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N770OC-2GD) £275.99
0 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £169.99
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2481HS-B1 24" Widescreen LED Super Slim Bezel Monitor - Black £131.99
1 x ASRock Z87 PRO3 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £104.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 350D Windowed Micro ATX Case - Black (CC-9011029-WW) £94.99
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L8 730W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply - With 120mm Silent Wing Fan Built in £89.99
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £79.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan GOLD 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLYD38G2400HC11CDC01) £65.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £43.99
1 x Arctic Cooling Freezer i30 Intel Cooler £32.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
Total : £1,128.80 (includes shipping : £19.10).

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Which is more futureproof? Intel or AMD?

Thanks for the builds mate really appreciate it!
 
Gimpymoo said:
Neither as both 1150 and AM3+ are "dead sockets".

Now is a poor time to be building a new rig if you want to "futureproof".

I like to get at least one CPU change from a new system but I badly needed a new rig so after MUCH consideration (It was actually a hard choice) I went with an i7 4770K simply because I could not wait.

Yes, I have a "dead" socket BUT, 12/18 months is a long time for any new processors/sockets so will just wait and see. That is initial launch as well so taking into account the special offer "Early adopter" prices, it is probably nearer 2 years before I would consider upgrading anyway.

Build a rig around it strengths suited to what you need it for and try not to let the "fanboyism" attitudes you read online sway you. Sounds obvious, but many do not do this.

An AM3+ rig right now with an extra ton towards a graphics card is worth serious consideration.

Everyone is miffed as to where PC gaming is going at the moment so there is no "smart choices" to be made as such.

Will Mantle make a difference, will the next gen consoles have an effect on PC games being better threaded? Will AMD's dominance of the console hardware play to their advantage in the PC sector? Nobody knows.
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What would you build then mate?

AMD with best graphics card I can afford?

Surely a Eight-Core will be more futureproof.

I currently have a AMD Phenom 9500 which must be 6 years old and it runs bf4 on about 20fps.

The reason I got this 6 years ago because it was quad for the same price as Intel Dual... I'm seriously tempted by AMD, but then people come along and say the I7 4770k overclocks are much better etc.

I have literally been debating what to do for weeks!It's going to be after christmas now anyway so I will be looking what's in the sales etc!
 
ussie said:
I think I may be late to reply I apologise, as i've probably not read everything.

But if you look at things more open mindedly (that goes for everyone else who's saying amd because... and intel because....) you will see that no matter what option you choose you WILL have a good gaming rig that will most definitely perform in the years to come.

Don't be swayed from you initial decision and your amd temptation. I have both an i5 haswell system and an 8350 system. I use them both for gaming and work etc. There is not a godly difference between the two, they are both amazing performers. The intel is great, its more expensive whereas my amd is quite a bit cheaper but once again its great!

A lengthy post yeah but the bottom line is if you are tempted by AMD then by all means go for the 8350, get a decent cooler you have your gpu already planned just sort out the rest and you are good to go. Yes currently amd will not be developing on the FX/am3+ but that does not mean you will be losing out on anything big. 8350 systems are brilliant, so are i5 and i7.

########## p.s. the amd system is in my sig its too big to include both my systems. This system in my sig is what I use for bf4, crysis 3, far cry...you name it i'll max it. (maybe not max on crysis 3 graphics settings ;) that game is hardcore )
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Well with an AMD I'd also be able to go for a 290X?

I'll only be using my comp for gaming so fingers crossed the eight core will be future proof :(
 
ussie said:
Sorry for late respons. Been busy, Going for 290 is great and so is 780. I Imo think its better to get a 290 as it's allot cheaper and overclockable to a 290x level or more it'. Also the price to performance king Imo. Sapphire toxic and direct CU version reviews have been released aswell!

Also your choice is great. You won't be disappointed with it
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By getting one of the custom cooled 290s that are just starting to enter the market, how easy will I be able to overclock?

I've never done it before but I'm probably quite capable of doing it with some guidance, is it a simple case of click this click that? Or is it ratios of voltages etc?

I was planning on investing in one of the best graphics cards now to probably add another in sli/crossfire in around a years or so time!

Thanks
 
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