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Intel or AMD?
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ok how about if you were upgrading now with no intention of upgrading again for at least a year or 2 and your budget dictated you buy one of those. Which one would be the best choice for a typical home user/gamer that wants a little future proofing.
u'll never be future proofing but tbh if your upgrading now and don't wanna upgrade again for a year or so. you should wait till the phenom 2 are out then see how good they are..
tbh out of 9950 and q6600 they performance about the same and overclock to similar speeds. but u need a 750sb motherboard if u get the 9950 and wanna overclock.
personly i'd go with amd, they have some good features, like the amd overdrive
tbh out of 9950 and q6600 they performance about the same and overclock to similar speeds. but u need a 750sb motherboard if u get the 9950 and wanna overclock.
personly i'd go with amd, they have some good features, like the amd overdrive
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Wait on the Phenom II. Then wait on price drops. Then wait to see if there's more price drops after Christmas. There will always be a reason to wait.
The processors you're looking at are what, a hundred and fifty notes? I'm not dismissing it, but it's very uncommon to see price drops that would significantly impact it. You won't be seeing a 50% price drop. A 20% price drop would be significant, and that'd only come out at 30 quid.
I'd wait until AMD come out with the Phenom II, which is supposed to be in the next couple of weeks. For you to see significant price drops you'd probably be looking to see AMD release a stack of Phenom IIs, across the GHz spectrum from 3 to 2. If they just come out with 2.8, 3.0, and 3.2 then I don't think you'll see much movement.
The processors you're looking at are what, a hundred and fifty notes? I'm not dismissing it, but it's very uncommon to see price drops that would significantly impact it. You won't be seeing a 50% price drop. A 20% price drop would be significant, and that'd only come out at 30 quid.
I'd wait until AMD come out with the Phenom II, which is supposed to be in the next couple of weeks. For you to see significant price drops you'd probably be looking to see AMD release a stack of Phenom IIs, across the GHz spectrum from 3 to 2. If they just come out with 2.8, 3.0, and 3.2 then I don't think you'll see much movement.
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And don't you think any of us knew that & who's to say the OP is a heavy overclocker.
If he waits for a Phenom 2 then i think it will be different picture.
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wrong..
phemons at 3.2ghz and up, beat the q6600 at the same clock.. also with the new 750sb chipset phenoms can overclock easyer and higher.
We don't know if he is an overclocker of course I'm just pointing it out in case he is. There are a lot of them around you know!
Do they tend to clock as high as a q6600 though?
Jeez you AMD boys are very defensive!!
Acording to toms you can only get 3.1 on 9950 with 750 SB, love the propaganda lol.
In all honesty, what clocks better atm. New Q6600's or new 9950's. Heard good reports for the AMD, bad for the intel.
*my q6600 clocked well btw, must have got lucky*
In all honesty, what clocks better atm. New Q6600's or new 9950's. Heard good reports for the AMD, bad for the intel.
*my q6600 clocked well btw
, must have got lucky*with a 750sb motherboard most 9850/9950 can get to 3.2-3.5ghz some even higher.Do they tend to clock as high as a q6600 though?
Jeez you AMD boys are very defensive!!
yes im a amd boy or fanboy or whatever u wanna call it.
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OF all the talk of people with Q6600's at 3.6-4Ghz, of which mine could do happily with a little more airflow and voltage, i'd say 90% of people overclocking them are running between 3 and 3.4Ghz for everyday usage, low temps and stability, which the 9950 is capable of also and its generally a little faster than the Q6600 clock for clock at those speeds.
The simple fact is, you wouldn't, honestly be able to tell the slightest bit of difference between either chip no matter what side you favour. Give someone a 9950 or Q6600 system to anyone, ask them to play a game or run an encode, go on the web, use photoshop, fold, etc, etc and without any ability to physically check what you're using no one would be able to tell.
Now in reality, 775 is fairly dead, am2+ is being somewhat upgraded to AM3 in the next several months but, in 2 years you'll still be able to buy AM3 phenoms which WILL work in AM2+ boards, nothing new will be working in S775 boards in 2 years time. So I would say, upgrade wise, future proof-ness and ease of upgrade in the future with a simple CPU being dropped in a AMD system makes more sense at this point. THe expense of a i7 system, before lynnfield is pointless right now.
You should also check on some forums, such as xtremesys, there are plenty of good clocking phenoms doing decent speeds on S600 boards, my 9600BE, got near release from first batch in UK probably did 3.1Ghz on air on a early S600 board that sucked big time. Their non overclockability is myth and nothing more frankly, they can be much harder to overclock and tweak and more specifically the early phenoms overclocked terribly on FSB and needed much tweaking to northbridge speeds as you overclocked. It wasn't as simple as putting a Q6600 to 400fsb and so people called it a failure.
Either way, I honestly believe a S775 system brand new today is a waste of money, a new S775 in an existing compatible S775 system is a different matter. But buying new, a AM2+ S750 board + whatever AMD chip you want is the way to go.
The simple fact is, you wouldn't, honestly be able to tell the slightest bit of difference between either chip no matter what side you favour. Give someone a 9950 or Q6600 system to anyone, ask them to play a game or run an encode, go on the web, use photoshop, fold, etc, etc and without any ability to physically check what you're using no one would be able to tell.
Now in reality, 775 is fairly dead, am2+ is being somewhat upgraded to AM3 in the next several months but, in 2 years you'll still be able to buy AM3 phenoms which WILL work in AM2+ boards, nothing new will be working in S775 boards in 2 years time. So I would say, upgrade wise, future proof-ness and ease of upgrade in the future with a simple CPU being dropped in a AMD system makes more sense at this point. THe expense of a i7 system, before lynnfield is pointless right now.
You should also check on some forums, such as xtremesys, there are plenty of good clocking phenoms doing decent speeds on S600 boards, my 9600BE, got near release from first batch in UK probably did 3.1Ghz on air on a early S600 board that sucked big time. Their non overclockability is myth and nothing more frankly, they can be much harder to overclock and tweak and more specifically the early phenoms overclocked terribly on FSB and needed much tweaking to northbridge speeds as you overclocked. It wasn't as simple as putting a Q6600 to 400fsb and so people called it a failure.
Either way, I honestly believe a S775 system brand new today is a waste of money, a new S775 in an existing compatible S775 system is a different matter. But buying new, a AM2+ S750 board + whatever AMD chip you want is the way to go.
Acording to toms you can only get 3.1 on 9950 with 750 SB, love the propaganda lol.
In all honesty, what clocks better atm. New Q6600's or new 9950's. Heard good reports for the AMD, bad for the intel.
*my q6600 clocked well btw
LOL my AMD 9950@3220Mhz/2300NB (140w) oldish version on a 600SB mobo.
Slap it on a 750SB maybe later.
My Sig is out of date BTW
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