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Intel Virtualisation

BoomAM

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Hi.
Not sure on the correct forum for this, so can the mods move if nessessary?

We currently have a C2D E4300 in our 'Virtual Server Host' machine at work.

The server is running Vista Business64, with Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 running Server 2003 R2 in a VM, acting as the print server for 2 printers on the network.
The number of printers will evantually increase to all the printers on the network, as its just a testing area the moment. It will evantually expand to other server functions, such as NAS duties, web server, ect;.

What im wondering, is that the E4xxx series dont support Intels hardware virtualisation.
Would upgrading the CPU to a E6xxx series, which does support the hardware virtualisation, bring any noticable performances increases?

Thanks in advance all. :).
 
Yes it would. I'd guess around 30-40% performance improvement in fact! It really is a very good technology. Does some clever stuff in the CPU for the virtual memory address/paging tables that, with compatible VM software, will vastly improve performance and responsiveness.
 
Will i need a reinstall of the host OS/VM program/VM client?
Or is it just a case of swapping out, enabling it in the VM program and thats it?
 
When I first got my iMac with a C2D and used Parallels to run a VM I was astonished, the VT really gives a hooooge boost.

Edit - you shouldnt need to reinstall anything.
Double Edit - bleuuurg Virtual PC 2007!
 
BoomAM said:
Hi.
Not sure on the correct forum for this, so can the mods move if nessessary?

We currently have a C2D E4300 in our 'Virtual Server Host' machine at work.

The server is running Vista Business64, with Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 running Server 2003 R2 in a VM, acting as the print server for 2 printers on the network.
The number of printers will evantually increase to all the printers on the network, as its just a testing area the moment. It will evantually expand to other server functions, such as NAS duties, web server, ect;.

What im wondering, is that the E4xxx series dont support Intels hardware virtualisation.
Would upgrading the CPU to a E6xxx series, which does support the hardware virtualisation, bring any noticable performances increases?

Thanks in advance all. :).
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It will but you should realy try out some 'proper' virtualisation software such as VMware VI3 or Zen source to see the biggest improvements.
 
Godsbrother said:
It will but you should realy try out some 'proper' virtualisation software such as VMware VI3 or Zen source to see the biggest improvements.
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The latest VMware costs, the free one doesnt work on Vista.
Does Zen work on Vista? will it be faster than MS VPC2007? and can it work with existing virtual machines? :p.
 
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FirebarUK said:
The free one (VMware Server) works if you disable driver signing. I'm using it for my development work on Vista Ultimate.
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It installs nothing but python files for me?
 
Eh? Sorry, can't help with that one.

I'll just say I have it installed on 3 Vista machines without a problem. If driver signing is enabled it simply rolls back the install at the last minute.

Are you installing the vmwareserver 1.0.3 .exe file?
 
FirebarUK said:
Eh? Sorry, can't help with that one.

I'll just say I have it installed on 3 Vista machines without a problem. If driver signing is enabled it simply rolls back the install at the last minute.

Are you installing the vmwareserver 1.0.3 .exe file?
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The 1.0.2 one i think. Im not at work now so im not 100% sure.
 
Cob said:
Yip v1.0.3 works in Vista.

I'm running a pair of Ubuntu VMs in x64 Vista.
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How odd.
Everytime i install it on Vista64 i get no icons, no programs, just a collection of Python files in 'Program Files (x86)'.
 
1.0.2 works in Vista too.

If you dont have driver signing disabled the install will continue them immediately roll back and then disappear, thinking its perhaps installed (I *think* thats what happens).

Have you definately got driver signing disabled?
 
How do i disable driver signing in Vista 64? I was under the impression that it couldnt be done in Vista 64?
 
matja said:
Vista x64 for a VM host OS? oh dear... :p
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Good post. Full of info. ;)
Vistas allways been stable for me, and with a cut down version of Vista64, its near bulletproof upto now.

Its annoying, ive followed a few command line guides to disabling driver signing, but it never works! :(. Ideas?

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Even tryed the disable option on boot, but it still wont work!? :(.
 
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Ive decided i dont like VMWare.
The converter wont convert/recognise my other VMs from the MS VM2007, and the actual program itself wont install right. :(
The MS one works fine, so im sticking with that!
 
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