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Intel will launch its first dGPU line-up starting at $200

Zernath said:
Price fixing is highly illegal, they would be fools to go down that particular road. Intel especially, with all the fines they've been hit with in the last 20+ years!
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Price fixing is very hard to prove. There might be no written agreedments between the companies but they copy paste their competitors' prices, so you get the same end result.

What's worse, is that intel might try their dirty tricks, so everyone starts to buy only their cards, while AMD would be denied from selling their Radeons. The same what intel did in the Athlon 64 days.
 
No one can prove price fixing, in reality it's very simple. A quiet chat between two guys over beers with nothing in writing, no phones at the table is all it takes and the way prices in the GPU market have followed in step with one another since the 9700Pro has made me believe the GPU market is utterly rigged. Look how Huawei has disrupted Apple and Samsung's duopoly. They clearly didn't meet for beers or if they did they had a row. Pattern recognition is all you need to see the underlying subtext but I guess it's very difficult for a lot of people. 2 GPUs very similar performance very similar price say Capitalism isn't working because it's much better for both players to milk the market rather than compete with each other. In the end they're both working together and competing against the consumer. And what do you know the consumer sucks it all up and cheers for red against blue or green or orange and imagines things are all as they seem. Children.
 
I'm just waiting for the inevitable patent war, as nVidia go after Intel for having the audacity to try to compete with them.
 
Jacky60 said:
No one can prove price fixing, in reality it's very simple. A quiet chat between two guys over beers with nothing in writing, no phones at the table is all it takes and the way prices in the GPU market have followed in step with one another since the 9700Pro has made me believe the GPU market is utterly rigged. Look how Huawei has disrupted Apple and Samsung's duopoly. They clearly didn't meet for beers or if they did they had a row. Pattern recognition is all you need to see the underlying subtext but I guess it's very difficult for a lot of people. 2 GPUs very similar performance very similar price say Capitalism isn't working because it's much better for both players to milk the market rather than compete with each other. In the end they're both working together and competing against the consumer. And what do you know the consumer sucks it all up and cheers for red against blue or green or orange and imagines things are all as they seem. Children.
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Spot the guy that wants a 2080ti but can't afford one :D:D:D:D:D:D
 
Stephanie Peterson said:
I bet its absolute toss.
Building a gpu is one thing, getting the software side right is another - intel have a.... ok polite answer... really crap history with drivers and such so i doubt AMD or Nvidia are sweating much.
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To be fair they haven't had much of a reason to provide regular driver updates as all there graphics efforts are low to low-mid end and any serious gamer that cares about driver updated will have a dedicated GPU anyway.

Intel's market strategy when it comes to graphics is weird, when they launched the Iris Pro graphics chip it was at the time a pretty good GPU the problem was it was only available on super expensive mobile chips which limited it's exposure and instead paired low end rubbish with it's CPU's that competed with AMD's APU's (and that was pre Zen, Intel looks like they have given up for the time being of trying to compete with the 2200/2400-3200/3400 chips). If Intel really wants to compete with AMD's APU's they need to put there best integrated GPU with lower end CPU's which really will drive competition.
 
I see absolutely no incentive from a business point of view for any company to start trying to compete with nVidia at the very high end.

The billions in R&D, along with patent issues and whatever else - there are plenty of easier ways to make money than to try and develop ultra high end GPU's.

Low to mid range GPU's for example :D
 
BubbySoup said:
I see absolutely no incentive from a business point of view for any company to start trying to compete with nVidia at the very high end.

The billions in R&D, along with patent issues and whatever else - there are plenty of easier ways to make money than to try and develop ultra high end GPU's.

Low to mid range GPU's for example :D
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Nothing wrong with developing a low power GPU, Nvidia have likely been able to leverage the benefits of power savings from developing Tegra and scaling them up into its desktop class chips. The problem for Intel is their low end graphics chips are pretty expensive in terms of size of the actual silicon (the GT3e was around 265mm, compare that to a GPU of around the same era like the 7770 which was 125mm you can see just how far behind Intel are).
 
amigafan2003 said:
Spot the guy that wants a 2080ti but can't afford one :D:D:D:D:D:D
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I can afford one I'm running 1080ti SLI which is faster and I had two Titan XP's before costing £2600. I'm simply not going to spend that much again
for RTX and DLSS aka blur vision and I'm waiting for a decent upgrade. It's clear to me you can't afford to put food on the table or to buy new clothes but I wasn't going to mention that :).
I've considered 2080ti SLI which would be an upgrade you can only fantasise about but again I'm not paying that much as I don't feel the need, all my games run 4K Ultra with at least 4xMSAA 60fps which is very pretty but I'm tired of rewarding Nvidia for taking the ****.
 
Jacky60 said:
It's clear to me you can't afford to put food on the table or to buy new clothes but I wasn't going to mention that :).
I've considered 2080ti SLI which would be an upgrade you can only fantasise about
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OK dude, calm down :-)

Prob should have checked my sig before typing that response though.
 
Jacky60 said:
It's clear to me you can't afford to put food on the table or to buy new clothes but I wasn't going to mention that :).
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BubbySoup said:
I see absolutely no incentive from a business point of view for any company to start trying to compete with nVidia at the very high end.

The billions in R&D, along with patent issues and whatever else - there are plenty of easier ways to make money than to try and develop ultra high end GPU's.

Low to mid range GPU's for example :D
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Maybe, and a very large one at that, this is where Intel’s talent have been hiding for the past 10 years and they’re about to surprise us all?
 
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