Intelligence / measure of intelligence.

ElRazur · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:41

I was having a convo with a lady today about intelligence and this got me thinking - what is intelligence and how do you measure intelligence. As we are all human, i believe there is a basic level of intelligence that is accepted whether socially or mentally. Take for example, someone who comes out with a first class degree will be considered intelligent but, is education a yardstick for measuring intelligence?
Do the society dictates what is accepted as a form of intelligence or what needs to be done for someone to be accepted s intelligent - Education, a good career, well paid job etc?

I wanna guage people's insight and opinion into this and see what we all got to say.

Zefan · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:42

Big wang = big brain.

shifty_uk · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:43

Zefan said:
Big wang = big brain.

rofl

cleanbluesky · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:43

Capacity for abstract thought and the ability not to use the abbreviation 'convo'

Spacky · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:44

'Forest Gump - Momma says "Stupid is as stupid does".'

Theres plenty of truth in that

Zefan said:
Big wang = big brain.

OP has been answered thread should be closed

Smithy · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:44

ElRazur said:
...Education, a good career, well paid job etc?...

Well i think its hard to be intelligent and not have all 3 of these.

Zefan · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:47

Smithy said:
Well i think its hard to be intelligent and not have all 3 of these.

Really? Why?

Raumarik · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:47

Smithy said:
Well i think its hard to be intelligent and not have all 3 of these.

Don't know I think those who are sponging off the morons like us who have worked every day we could are the clever ones

crashuk · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:47

yes but most people with 1st are unable to function in a working environment they seem unable to cope.

Psyk · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:48

Intelligence is very difficult to define and nearly impossible to measure. It's quite common to get people who perform brilliantly academically but you talk to them and they seem as thick as two short planks. And the opposite is also very common. People only seem to measure intelligence by academic ability which is only a small part of what intelligence is.

Zefan · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:49

crashuk said:
yes but most people with 1st are unable to function in a working environment they seem unable to cope.

Does that mean they're not intelligent?

Efour · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:50

ElRazur said:
As we are all human.

I stopped reading there.

Intelligence. Well what to say the old "academic genious" vs the streetwise "intelligent" thug.

Both are intelligent, both excel in different situatuations.

cant spell dont care.

robmiller · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:50

There is absolutely no way to quantify intelligence.

ElRazur · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:55

Psyk said:
Intelligence is very difficult to define and nearly impossible to measure. It's quite common to get people who perform brilliantly academically but you talk to them and they seem as thick as two short planks. And the opposite is also very common.

Agreed

People only seem to measure intelligence by academic ability which is only a small part of what intelligence is.

Why is that? Is this due to the society we live in?

ElRazur · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:57

Zefan said:
Does that mean they're not intelligent?

Perhaps they are but there application in other areas of life is useless?

Black_Widow · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:57

Yeah right

I'd love nothing more than to have an inteligent convo with my old lady, but to be honest she defies laws and math...

I swear to god she'd 'burn a salad...'

She reminds me of those Churchil Nodding Dogs...

Efour · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:59

Black_Widow said:
I'd love nothing more than to have an inteligent convo with my old lady, but to be honest she defies laws and math...

I swear to god she'd 'burn a salad...'

She reminds me of those Churchil Nodding Dogs...

oh yessssssssssss!

Psyk · 11 Oct 2006 at 16:02

ElRazur said:
Why is that? Is this due to the society we live in?

I can't imagine any biological reason why it would be like that so it probably is purely social. In evolutionary terms the opposite should be true.

Mr_Sukebe · 11 Oct 2006 at 16:04

crashuk said:
yes but most people with 1st are unable to function in a working environment they seem unable to cope.

Damn, knew I was getting something wrong in my career, I'm meant to be unable to cope...

As for the query on intelligence. The first thing I think it is NOT is memory capability. I know a number of people with excellent memories, but have bugger all ability to logically process anything.
Vice versa, measuring say a non-uk resident who may have limited vocabulary on their academic ability would probably result in them not scoring well, despite the fact that they may be very bright.
My personal view is the best measure for real IQ is the ability to conceptualise abstract subjects and analyse them. Seriously thick people simply don't get this and never will, regardless of whether or not they know every answer on Mastermind.

ElRazur · 11 Oct 2006 at 16:06

Mr_Sukebe said:
measuring say a non-uk resident who may have limited vocabulary on their academic ability would probably result in them not scoring well, despite the fact that they may be very bright.
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That is so me....No wonder i failed Cancer BIology.

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