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Intel’s x86 Designs No Longer Limited to Intel on Intel: IP Blocks for Foundry, Cores on TSMC

Me thinks this is a case of "door shut after the horse has bolted" I don't see why, after all these years, any potential foundry partner should or would trust anything Intel say. It's like the school bully has been beating you over the head for years with a club, then offers you that same club on the proviso that you let him use yours.
 
X86 alone is useless and Intel know it, you need X86_64, nothing runs on X86 alone these days and the _64 is AMD's IP, stand alone its called AMD64.
 
humbug said:
X86 alone is useless and Intel know it, you need X86_64, nothing runs on X86 alone these days and the _64 is AMD's IP, stand alone its called AMD64.
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Exactly, they are trying to milk something that is basically dead now. X64 is the future for now, x86 has been dead a good while now and as stated the x64 IP is owned by AMD, Intel trying to rescue it's manufacturing plants with something to do it seems, not sure who wants x86 devices now, when we have ARM64 too.
 
Intel Foundry Service (IFS) or whatever they call it, is off to running start.

The reward for the failure of the last few years is: securing large quantities of money from the DoD.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1691...epartment-of-defense-for-nextgen-fab-services

Does the US taxpayer have truly limitless funds? I guess they can just print more Greenbacks!

Since this was the suspected end-game for IFS, can they wind it all back down now?
 
KompuKare said:
Intel Foundry Service (IFS) or whatever they call it, is off to running start.

The reward for the failure of the last few years is: securing large quantities of money from the DoD.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1691...epartment-of-defense-for-nextgen-fab-services

Does the US taxpayer have truly limitless funds? I guess they can just print more Greenbacks!

Since this was the suspected end-game for IFS, can they wind it all back down now?
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Intel are the only US foundry, the DoD are not going to share their secretes with a Chinese foundry.
 
Possibly to head off any law suit from Mvidia if the ARM deal falls through. Intel we couldn’t buy ARM so you must give us 1.5 billion.
KompuKare said:
Intel Foundry Service (IFS) or whatever they call it, is off to running start.

The reward for the failure of the last few years is: securing large quantities of money from the DoD.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1691...epartment-of-defense-for-nextgen-fab-services

Does the US taxpayer have truly limitless funds? I guess they can just print more Greenbacks!

Since this was the suspected end-game for IFS, can they wind it all back down now?
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US government:

Dear Intel,

You screwed up so badly for over a decade, that it’s now become a matter of national security. Now here, take theses 10’s of billions of dollars of public money and let that be a lesson to you.

Much love,
The Dept of D
 
humbug said:
Including TSMC?
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I was replying to "only US foundry" part.

Anyway, Intel mostly didn't kill the other US foundries directly, but once the other foundry's customers or chips were killed off by Intel x86 it was only a matter of time.

And even in the x86 space, Intel's hand was all over the other players not having fabs. Certainly in AMD in 2006+, and TI getting no more revenue for making Cyrix etc. all had Intel involvement.

IBM were about the only fab left of some interest to the DoD until they were given away to GF.

Does this mean any rumoured GF deal is off the table as Intel are now already firmly dependent on DoD's welfare checks?
 
KompuKare said:
I was replying to "only US foundry" part.

Anyway, Intel mostly didn't kill the other US foundries directly, but once the other foundry's customers or chips were killed off by Intel x86 it was only a matter of time.

And even in the x86 space, Intel's hand was all over the other players not having fabs. Certainly in AMD in 2006+, and TI getting no more revenue for making Cyrix etc. all had Intel involvement.

IBM were about the only fab left of some interest to the DoD until they were given away to GF.

Does this mean any rumoured GF deal is off the table as Intel are now already firmly dependent on DoD's welfare checks?
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Oh i see.

The thing is the US and the rest of the English speaking world at least are trying to reduce their dependence on China, especially for technology related stuff.

AMD don't have any fabs, they depend on TSMC who under advice from Apple and AMD are setting up shop in America as an option to move shop if China completely take over Taiwan and all it industry.

Intel was always going to be the one who gets all the funding as they by the size of their market share are the defecto choice, this is the problem all others, including AMD in all aspects are dealing with, if you're already the whale its self perpetuating, you're the one who gets all the perks, including a fat Billion $ Cheque from the taxpayer because you want to make yourself an even bigger whale.
 
humbug said:
X86 alone is useless and Intel know it, you need X86_64, nothing runs on X86 alone these days and the _64 is AMD's IP, stand alone its called AMD64.
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Yeah but aren't AMD the peoples champion? are you saying they won't do the same as the evil empire (Intel) and make X86_64 available to everyone's benefit? how times have changed.
 
mmj_uk said:
Yeah but aren't AMD the peoples champion? are you saying they won't do the same as the evil empire (Intel) and make X86_64 available to everyone's benefit? how times have changed.
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I have no interest in your childish quips, go away the adults are talking.
 
It make sense about the rumours of Intel looking to buy GF as the latter has specialistic SOI nodes,which are useful for military/space applications due to radiation tolerance.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It make sense about the rumours of Intel looking to buy GF as the latter has specialistic SOI nodes,which are useful for military/space applications due to radiation tolerance.
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Okay, and I guess almost anything is pocket change for Intel especially since they now come armed with a big fat monthly DoD Welfare Check!

US: Welfare is bad.
US: Welfare for corporation is great!
 
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