Internet connected listening devices in your home fail to make money

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It's fun to mock Elon desperately trying to make money out of people wanting to post mostly junk, sycophancy and abuse on a message site he overpaid for but lets make time for others looking to make money by sheer brute force of already having unimaginable money and failing.


The business model seems insane. Sell cheap and then... somehow make money without making it so obnoxious that the speaker is launched out of a window?
 
It's fun to mock Elon desperately trying to make money out of people wanting to post mostly junk, sycophancy and abuse on a message site he overpaid for but lets make time for others looking to make money by sheer brute force of already having unimaginable money and failing.


The business model seems insane. Sell cheap and then... somehow make money without making it so obnoxious that the speaker is launched out of a window?

Its not a colossal failure, the goal of amazon is to increase its free cash flow in the future.

To do so you need people using their services, and so, you have online shopping, video, music, books, smart devices, now you have robot vacuums, and who knows what else.
 
I used Alexa for the first time last month.
An office here at work has one, they just use it to play music throughout the day. I clocked it as I was walking out and said "Alexa? Play Spice Girls".

That's my experience with it. It's fun to annoy people at work.
 
I've never got on with these smart home devices that you talk to so don't have any. I am not really sure why they are deemed more useful than just tapping a screen/pressing a button.

My dad always tries to show how much he loves his google nest thing that can turn the TV on/off with speech, but half the time it doesn't work and he could have turned the TV on much quicker by just pressing a button on the remote.

The only place i like voice control is in the car, for obvious reasons. In the home, i much prefer to just tap/swipe on a screen than rely on voice control which is always pretty flakey.
 
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I have several around the house and have found we only use them for playing Spotify, setting timers and announcing that dinner is ready to the rest of the house.

Most of the time they're not very helpful, often don't understand you or just give you a rubbish unrelated answer.
 
I have several around the house and have found we only use them for playing Spotify, setting timers and announcing that dinner is ready to the rest of the house.

Most of the time they're not very helpful, often don't understand you or just give you a rubbish unrelated answer.

Exactly our experience/usage too.

"What's the time"
"Turn on/off the lights"
"Set an alarm/timer for X"
"Play X on Spotify"

Struggling to think of anything else we've used it for other than the odd stupid thing for novelty value when it was new and "exciting"

I used Alexa for the first time last month.
An office here at work has one, they just use it to play music throughout the day. I clocked it as I was walking out and said "Alexa? Play Spice Girls".

That's my experience with it. It's fun to annoy people at work.

Yes! A guy on my team very quickly learned to mute his speakers when he was AFK on Discord, after we found out his Echo was within hearing range and he had his fire* and lights connected to it.

"Alexa, turn on the fire"
"Alexa, turn off the lights"
"Alexa, set volume to 10"
"Alexa, play Rick Astley"

:D



* surely this is a huge fire hazard?!
 
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I use mine regularly, but only have a few use cases. I don't use it for anything other than the following:

- Setting a timer while cooking
- Controlling music on my Sonos when I'm cooking or washing up (i.e when my hands are occupied)
- Turning the TV off if I can't get to the remote before the kids' next show auto-plays
 
I've never got on with these smart home devices that you talk to so don't have any. I am not really sure why they are deemed more useful than just tapping a screen/pressing a button.

My dad always tries to show how much he loves his google nest thing that can turn the TV on/off with speech, but half the time it doesn't work and he could have turned the TV on much quicker by just pressing a button on the remote.

The only place i like voice control is in the car, for obvious reasons. In the home, i much prefer to just tap/swipe on a screen than rely on voice control which is always pretty flakey.
They're very useful for things like setting timers when cooking or when you're doing something that needs your hands (I use one when i'm painting to play music/audiobooks).

They've also effectively pushed the cost of some kinds of disability type aids right down, as it's now trivially easy for someone who is visually impaired to do things like get the time, control all sorts of things, or even listen to audio books compared to what it used to be, before the likes of the Echo if you wanted a talking clock it was typically something that did a single task, required you to press a button to get it to talk and cost as much/more than a full price Echo dot for that one task.
When my dad's eyes were really bad he couldn't operate a tablet, he could barely operate the TV remote by touch (and really struggled with the onscreen guide), but could manage to get his Echo to play audio books, get the time etc.

I was seeing the headline about the losses for the Echo's etc at Amazon yesterday and was wondering if they've had a change of management at some level, as it seemed to me for a long time the Echo's were not there to make a profit at the hardware level, but to encourage you to buy into the Amazon ecosystem for other things, so you'd be more likely to buy audiobooks, amazon videos etc if you had an echo, I know when my dad's eyes were bad we were buying anything up to 3 audio books a week for him to listen to on the echo, something like £600+ a year spent at Amazon for digital media we wouldn't otherwise have bought.

Currently we've got an echo device in most rooms because of the timer type functions and audiobooks, but also to control various lamps as for example when my dad gets out of bed at night he'll tell the echo in his bedroom to turn on a lamp in there, and one in the hall so he's not struggling in the dark (his eye is far better than it was a couple of years back, but he's got basically no night vision).
 
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Use mine for quite a lot of things, lights, thermostat, rad valves, weather, Blink CCTV, turning the TV on and off, kids ask it questions, timers, music via Amazon music.

Probably a few more that don't come to mind. I could live without them but with two young kids I'm always doing something so it's just easier to ask Alexa with more voice rather than pull out my phone etc

Thinking of getting two for a stereo speaker setup on the TV or just replace the aging sound bar with a Studio
 
the 10bn 'loss' (lost planned market opportunity) is across alexa and other hardware, so tablet and firesticks too, where there is equally competition.

The Alexa enagement proposition that article suggests, sounds over blown - what kind of detailed online orders would customer really conduct exclusively verbally,
home food delivery business impacted by inflation/recession, maybe alexa could have taken out justeat etc. if you wanted to repeat orders, but,usually you want to see a menu.
 
we've got them around the house.

but the only things we use them for are :

lights/smart control
timers
reminders
alarms in bedroom
routines - aka I walk in my man cave, say "alexa, gaming" and it does the deed and turn the lights on, sets correct brightness, colour etc so I can sit like a hobbit and scream at someone online for a few hours.

over the years I have maybe once or twice used to it to add something to the basket on amazon, that is it. So once the device is bought, it won't be making much money unless I continue buying amazons smart devices like lights, plugs, speakers etc none of which they sell or if they do, the competitors are often cheaper and better.
 
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I think the phone link up was missed, Google had Android to integrate with, I have found mine pretty damn good and good sales on their display models.
 
Tell me a joke.
Alexa good morning.
What's the weather later?
Play radio 'insert station here'
What's todays news?
Play 'insert band here'
Set timer for x mins.
Connect to Bluetooth (Then play something from phone)

Not much apart from that but then it was only £30 or something.
 
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