Had a job interview went well, then at the end they asked the question of my expectation, and in the heat of the moment I feel like I've under shot what I should have said based on research. The company have offered me the job with what I said, I'm guessing I've shot myself in the foot now and no chance of negotiating...?
Interview and salary expectation
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Are you saying that you did your research and then gave a figure lower than the indicative figure? Regardless, you'll be very hard pressed to get this raised by anything meaningful as they are offering you what you told them you expected. Unless you get into trickery ("Company B has now offered my 10 grand more so...") then it won't change and I doubt you'd be posting this thread if you were in a position where you could pull this off.
Sorry to say, but if you didn't check what the market rate was for the position then that's your own fault.
At least they accepted what you wanted - so you must be reasonably happy.
I agree with others, trying to ask for more now will make you look bad unless you use trickery or, you could have other interviews if you are still not happy, then say x company has offered me x, so can you match/beat this
At least they accepted what you wanted - so you must be reasonably happy.
I agree with others, trying to ask for more now will make you look bad unless you use trickery or, you could have other interviews if you are still not happy, then say x company has offered me x, so can you match/beat this
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If you're put on a probation period and succeed it, then you might get a raise after that. That happened to me after my 6 months probation, albeit it was only a £500 increase. Still, better than a kick in the teeth.
nah screw them... they asked you before you'd received an offer and as you gave an actual figure rather than dodge the question or give a range they took away an option to negotiate... though an interview is a two way process its rather skewed in favour of the employer until an offer is made.
Are you currently employed and just considering changing jobs? Has it been particularly hard to land this particular interview or is it simply one of the first you've had since you decided to take a look around?
Yes you'll likely get a bump when you pass your probation and in your annual review and you can always argue for a bit more at that point too however its when changing jobs (either joining a new firm or getting promoted) when you have the best potential to increase your pay.
If you're not in a position where you desperately need this job then just go back to them and ask for more.... you can put down any fluff you want around the demand... 'upon further reflation I feel that...' blah blah blah... essentially just ask for more money... pretty much any hiring manager who isn't a complete retard will have budgeted for a candidate to reject the first offer under most circumstances - OK you've actually given a figure when pressed to in an interview but you're clearly not happy with that figure and so its not in anyone's interest long term....
that's the easiest excuse tbh... 'well I'm also interviewing elsewhere and they're looking more in the X-Y range...'
bottom line is - ask for more money... if they're too tight to give it to you then its a bad sign anyway
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It's not as bad a sign as being not offered the job because someone better and cheaper can do it.
e: are you the HR guy or the Recruitment guy? That's some bewildering advice either way.
e: are you the HR guy or the Recruitment guy? That's some bewildering advice either way.
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Like others have said the only angle you have left is the probation. If you have a chance to discuss the role again then when money is mention or you ask to confirm the salary, you could ask if that will go up at the end of probation but if you dont have the right moment then you stuck with it.
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They expect it less when the potential employee has stated the amount they require. Once that horse has bolted it's generally time to either brass neck the whole thing out or just accept it.
Side note: most people who hire have a budget which is made up of a ton of stuff. If your 5 grand additional expectation is to the detriment of my 5 grand 1 day training course for my established team then you're not going to get hired because I'll choose the other guy if he's equally capable.
Side note: most people who hire have a budget which is made up of a ton of stuff. If your 5 grand additional expectation is to the detriment of my 5 grand 1 day training course for my established team then you're not going to get hired because I'll choose the other guy if he's equally capable.
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and that's why its a red flag... if they're on that tight a budget that they can't set aside a reasonable range for a new headcount without having to cut back on training for existing team members then the hiring manager is politically weak within the organisation or the dept is not valued or the organisation is trying to cut costs a lot... its not a good sign regardless
yes the OP has mentioned an amount, but he can easily waffle around that... interviewing elsewhere can I take a few days to consider etc..etc.. and then come back and ask for more. Realistically though most hiring managers have a budget that allows for the first offer to be rejected.... if they've not set aside at least 10-15% more than whatever they've offered then they're retarded.
If I were to get asked at interview stage what I'd expect to earn, I'd normally request that we discuss that if and when a job is offered to me. If this seems to be a problem I'd generally go in with a fairly high figure for the market, and tell them that it was negotiable. Put yourself in the driving seat.
There is also research that indicates that whomever mentions the first price (in any financial 'trade') places the marker that needs to be addressed by the other party - so always aim higher if they don't budge as much as you would like, you can always come down!
There is also research that indicates that whomever mentions the first price (in any financial 'trade') places the marker that needs to be addressed by the other party - so always aim higher if they don't budge as much as you would like, you can always come down!
OK, so here's the story..
I was in the job as a contractor, for about a year. Then the company managed to get head count for various positions including mine. I had to go through the interview stage (for my own job, which was weird!) and this weekend I got through the "Congratulations" job pack.
I did actually have an interview else where and they were aware of this, as I was honest at the interview stage.
I knew I should have said a range of salary expectations, but it was a long interview, poor excuse I know. I'm going to speak to my line-manager today and see her thoughts as we get on really well.
How about saying something along the lines of "Thank you for the offer, however on reflection I've realised I low balled myself with my salary expectation after having other offers and speaking to recruiters and them saying for my skillset what I should be on, is there any movement on this figure?"
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