Ionic Fan - Is it really this easy?

Hawk Tuah · 20 Dec 2006 at 13:52

Just been reading this....

http://www.inventgeek.com/Projects/IonCooler2/Overview.aspx

Watch the movie clip. I was expecting a virtually non existant whaft. :eek:

http://www.inventgeek.com/Projects/IonCooler2/Images/P1010384.MOV

Is it really that easy to make a ionic fan like that. If so that HAS to be my next mod!

eracer2006 · 20 Dec 2006 at 15:27

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Messiah Khan · 20 Dec 2006 at 15:59

I higly doubt thats real. I saw another mod with someone who made an ionic wind cooled computer. However soneone did the maths on itl, and revealed it all as a fraud.

weetabix · 21 Dec 2006 at 13:32

messiah khan said:
I higly doubt thats real. I saw another mod with someone who made an ionic wind cooled computer. However soneone did the maths on itl, and revealed it all as a fraud.

Looks real to me, have a look at some of his other projects, why would anyone bother making how-tos if they didnt work?

WJA96 · 21 Dec 2006 at 13:48

I had a look in one of these ionizer things in an electrical shop last night and it does look very much like the only thing generating the whoosh of air is a couple of wires. I've been trying to track down an ion generator but no luck so far.

feriso · 21 Dec 2006 at 14:13

messiah khan said:
I higly doubt thats real. I saw another mod with someone who made an ionic wind cooled computer. However soneone did the maths on itl, and revealed it all as a fraud.

Ditto - If it really was this easy then why have NASA only begun to deploy experimental ion drive spacecraft which are essentially the safe technology (OK slight variation on application, but physics and principle are the same)

weetabix · 21 Dec 2006 at 14:24

feriso said:
Ditto - If it really was this easy then why have NASA only begun to deploy experimental ion drive spacecraft which are essentially the safe technology (OK slight variation on application, but physics and principle are the same)

Would it even work in space?

FUNTY · 21 Dec 2006 at 14:26

lol

tuftyfella · 21 Dec 2006 at 14:47

weetabix said:
Would it even work in space?

technically no as theres to air in space to create the thrust, thats why the crafts use a xenon gas mix of whatever kind.

would be nice to try this but wouldn't it require quite a large voltage to compare with a fan? and even then, ude have a levitating PC right?

disclaimer: warning, im not a physicist, under no cirrcumstances take my words as gospal, i have read these things up as general interest but have a bad memory so i may be wrong, im no Einstein

weetabix · 21 Dec 2006 at 14:47

I dont actually see what is being disputed here, you can buy ionic fans, he has made one and put it on the back of a computer, and it _is_ moving air, which is all he claims, he also says the strips are so lively, because theyre made out of almost nothing(cant remember what, mylar I think)

The spaceship has no relevance what so ever, its like almost like saying petrol engines arent real because nasa cant make an engine fuelled by water. And also how do you know nasa dont have an ionic drive spaceship?

weetabix · 21 Dec 2006 at 14:53

tuftyfella said:
technically no as theres to air in space to create the thrust, thats why the crafts use a xenon gas mix of whatever kind.

would be nice to try this but wouldn't it require quite a large voltage to compare with a fan? and even then, ude have a levitating PC right?

disclaimer: warning, im not a physicist, under no cirrcumstances take my words as gospal, i have read these things up as general interest but have a bad memory so i may be wrong, im no Einstein

I think it would work, and nasa probably are developing one.

weetabix · 21 Dec 2006 at 14:54

http://nmp.nasa.gov/ds1/tech/ionpropfaq.html

Hawk Tuah · 21 Dec 2006 at 14:56

Well I've now ordered all the parts required to build this.

Just gotta wait for the Ion generator to be delivered. I bough the same one he used.

Dont think I'll try this on my new C2D rig though.

Hawk Tuah · 21 Dec 2006 at 15:09

feriso said:
Ditto - If it really was this easy then why have NASA only begun to deploy experimental ion drive spacecraft which are essentially the safe technology (OK slight variation on application, but physics and principle are the same)

Why would NASA spend millions developing rocket engines when they could just use a ducted fan..... :rolleyes:

joeyjojo · 21 Dec 2006 at 15:41

So the air is ionised and attracted to the second wire? What happens to it then? Presumably it returns to it's ground state. I wouldn't be happy with a room full of ionised air. End up with lightning :eek:

collisster · 21 Dec 2006 at 15:50

my mum has an ionic hairdryer, it reduces frizz ................ apparently

tuftyfella · 21 Dec 2006 at 16:02

joeyjojo said:
So the air is ionised and attracted to the second wire? What happens to it then? Presumably it returns to it's ground state. I wouldn't be happy with a room full of ionised air. End up with lightning

i read sumwhere that ionising air reduces polution in it...or something along those lines, ill see if i can find it...

would mean a very healthy PC

wonder, would ionising air do something with the dust? like for example, repel it away from the PC somehow? or even attract it to the wires and act as a filter?

sablabra · 21 Dec 2006 at 16:06

collisster said:
my mum has an ionic hairdryer, it reduces frizz ................ apparently

Steal it, tear it apart, install it in your computer

capt nemo · 21 Dec 2006 at 16:29

I cant see how this will make a lot of air movement. Ionic generators are used in marine aquiriums to clean the water. They generate and electrical charge and this cannot be good for computers as static charges aint good for computers. If you go outside after an electrical storm and smell the air it is the ion charge in the air that toy will smell. I used the same principal while keeping marine fish to kill bacteria in the tank.

Hawk Tuah · 21 Dec 2006 at 16:44

capt nemo said:
I cant see how this will make a lot of air movement.

Me neither. I was expecting the faintest waft. But then I saw the video. Its one of those things that unless you see it in the flesh, you'll never beleive it.

capt nemo said:
Ionic generators are used in marine aquiriums to clean the water. They generate and electrical charge and this cannot be good for computers as static charges aint good for computers. If you go outside after an electrical storm and smell the air it is the ion charge in the air that toy will smell. I used the same principal while keeping marine fish to kill bacteria in the tank.

The guys original design was to have the unit inside. When people pointed out the charged ions may effect the machine, he moved it outside for his V2.