Iran, should we help them?

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Going on the latest news coming out of Iran from bloggers and other people from twitter, should we help them? or is this a struggle they have to resolve on there own?


I don't normally trust CNN, but this source has been verified across lots of independent news sources, but if this is the type of thing that is going on, should we help them?

Clearly the scaremongering coming from British and American politicians isn't the clear picture we thought. If so many people are ready for change, does that show you that there not the barbaric country were told?

For the people who can't access youtube:

The woman, whose identity CNN chose to keep secret for fear of reprisal by the Iranian government, also said she believed security forces had fired into a crowd.

“The black-clad police, they stopped everyone, they emptied the buses that were taking people [to the protests] … and then all of a sudden some 500 people with clubs and boots [came out of a mosque] and they poured into the street and they started beating everyone,” the eyewitness said.

“They beat a woman so savagely that she was drenched in blood, and her husband was watching the scene — he just fainted.”

Watson was left dumbfounded as the near-hysterical interviewee gave an impromptu plea for help from the West.

“This was a massacre,’ she said. “They were trying to beat people so that they would die. They were beating old men. This was exactly a massacre. You should stop this. You should help the people of Iran who demand freedom.”

This video is from CNN’s Newsroom, broadcast June 24, 2009.
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No, it would just escalate tensions, they see the West as an enemy already. If this continues the way it's going we'll see a repeat of the 1979 revolution
 
My personal opinion is no.

I don't think we should be doing anything in the middle east at all, the people in power will never allow peace to happen and the people are too scared to really be able to do anything about it.

Let them kill themselves, if they step anywhere near another civilized country then push them back.
 
apeZ said:
I think this is their own fight.
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Agreed, if we meddle we'll only lose either way it turns out. They'll blame us regardless though, the Iranians love pointing the finger at the UK for any of it's woes, frankly they've had good reason to blame the west in the past. Not like they're allowed to blame their leaders or ex-leaders.
 
They are on their own on this one. a) I don't think they want our help - even the reformist Iranians don't like Britain or the US, b) it would give those in power over there to crack down hard on the protesters and claim they were foreign backed insurgents or some other such nonsense.
 
No we should not act. Until a unified world governmet is formed, all interfering in the situation will acheive is another Iraq. Our military's would crush Irans defences and then suffer years of insurgent activity as we occupy their land to enforce freedom and "retrain" the population in the arts of security and a western democratic government.
 
I think they need to get as much help as they can, as their ***** ** president along with his brutal army... the citizens there can't do much against it.
 
Shaye87 said:
I think they need to get as much help as they can, as their ***** ** president along with his brutal army... the citizens there can't do much against it.
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They definately do need outside help, but unfortunately doing so would escalate things to horrific proportions, probably a hell of a lot worse than we can imagine.
 
Appalling, if it's true. Still, I don't think we should intervene just yet..

We all know the government uses the media for its own gains and the US in particular seem to be 'keen' to get in there and meddle and there has been suggestions of military action in the past; this could well be propaganda for all we know. We'd need to see PROOF of this - a phone call from a women with a middle-eastern accent does not confirm that this happened (hope it didn't).

What other sources have confirmed this (with real evidence)? How has it been verified when news agencies aren't allowed in to the country?
 
Teki187 said:
Going on the latest news coming out of Iran from bloggers and other people from twitter, should we help them?
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Help them to do what? And how? You mean like we "helped" Iraq and Afghanistan?

There is nothing material we can do that won't make things even worse in the short and long term. People have to realise that the West is not a safety net for failed states. OK, so they've got a horrible government? Bad luck. Life sucks.

or is this a struggle they have to resolve on there own?
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Yes. They don't want us there anyway.
 
THey clearly need a revolution, and any outside help will definitely not facilitate it, in the short or log terms. It's something they need to do and be able to look back on.
 
pfft

don't see why us or the U.S. should help. When we do we get had a go at for interfeering. When we don't we get had a go at for being evil and not caring.

Can't win.
 
By broadcasting obvious suppression of rights, we are helping in a small way. Such powerful dissent from oppressed Iranians cannot be papered over, even by such a regime as is in power now.

Many Iranian people are friendly and want change and I wish to see no harm come to them by unwanted and unneccessary military action by the West.

It is bad enough seeing what we are now without another Iraq ..... of which I guess Iran would be greater of the two mires.
 
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