Irresponsible companies (environment)

PiKe

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How is there not some sort of law yet to prevent ridiculous products like this one use power bank from Poundland coming to market?


Not only is it yet more plastic but perfectly good lithium cells going to waste, everyone does their best trying to make the planet a better place then you have morons like Poundland bringing useless tat to market :mad:
 
PiKe said:
How is there not some sort of law yet to prevent ridiculous products like this one use power bank from Poundland coming to market?


Not only is it yet more plastic but perfectly good lithium cells going to waste, everyone does their best trying to make the planet a better place then you have morons like Poundland bringing useless tat to market :mad:
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There are other retailers large and small that sell similar products. Why focus on Pound land?
 
I wouldn't worry mate Britain could cease to exist tomorrow and China, the USA and India would ruin the planet at about the same rate give or take a few days
 
Phone manufacturers should just go back to allowing batteries to be removable so that people can carry around a spare, water proofing phones is in itself a nonsense to promote a throw away/upgrade culture when the battery degrades. You'd have to be special to be irresponsible enough to drop your phone in water.

I'm not sure what the obsession with cutting plastic use down is either, if it's recycled what's the problem? it's not like everyone is throwing their plastic waste into the sea like BBC/Sky would have you believe.
 
mmj_uk said:
Phone manufacturers should just go back to allowing batteries to be removable so that people can carry around a spare, water proofing phones is in itself a nonsense to promote a throw away/upgrade culture when the battery degrades. You'd have to be special to be irresponsible enough to drop your phone in water.

I'm not sure what the obsession with cutting plastic use down is either, if it's recycled what's the problem? it's not like everyone is throwing their plastic waste into the sea like BBC/Sky would have you believe.
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The problem is that a large proportion is just not recyclable. Watchdog had a segment about it tonight, highlighting just how much of single use plastic veg and fruit plastic are not recyclable, so just end up being binned.
 
The juice ones are even worse - I was quite frankly appalled though it is a selling point for them.

i.e. "Juice Micro USB Data Cable" - they are packed in like a hydration pack but AFAIK there is no way to reuse them (you just cut them open and dispose of a huge amount of completely ornamental plastic) though to be fair I've not actually looked into the recyclable aspect, etc. so might be completely wrong.

EDIT: Though I agree we shouldn't have one use Lithium cells like that - if the facilities are setup for it they are like 95% recyclable though IIRC last time I looked into it in most cases the facilities weren't being used :s
 
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it's pretty bad in general, tbh a preferable alternative would be to build phones with better battery life in the first place rather than focusing on making them as slim and powerful as possible only for the end user to slap a big case on there and barely use any of the processing power most of the time.
 
mmj_uk said:
Phone manufacturers should just go back to allowing batteries to be removable so that people can carry around a spare, water proofing phones is in itself a nonsense to promote a throw away/upgrade culture when the battery degrades. You'd have to be special to be irresponsible enough to drop your phone in water.

I'm not sure what the obsession with cutting plastic use down is either, if it's recycled what's the problem? it's not like everyone is throwing their plastic waste into the sea like BBC/Sky would have you believe.
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There's a difference between thermoplastic and thermoset plastics, with the latter having strong cross linking chemical bonds which cannot be reversed.

A lot of recycled plastic is contaminated and unable to be recycled for this very reason of people not having a clue that a lot of plastic is not recyclable; and plastic in the sea is very much real...
 
I would blame the people that purchase such a thing rather than the shops that sell them, if there wasn't a demand for them then they simply wouldn't exist.
 
Roar87 said:
I wouldn't worry mate Britain could cease to exist tomorrow and China, the USA and India would ruin the planet at about the same rate give or take a few days
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The USA isn't actually that bad. What was it I read the other day, The majority of plastic ending up in the oceans comes from just three rivers. One in China, One in India and One in Indonesia.

The USA isn't even on the list!
 
Orionaut said:
The USA isn't actually that bad.
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Second most polluting country on the planet.

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Orionaut said:
We are talking about plastic waste here, PLASTIC!
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No you are, the rest of us are also talking also about lithium and general pollution, read the thread.

You replied to a post about CO2 emissions and cited incorrect information, I linked a correction, no need to get mad about it.
 
Also statistics can be quite deceptive. When countries like the UK export loads of their waste to countries knowing that it will be miss-managed, can you really lay all the blame at the feet of the country which eventually disposes of it?

China has improved massively and is improving quicker than any other country as far as advancements in green energy goes. Their environmental policies are getting stricter and they have put a ban on importing waste to remove that mismanagement (it is why we now send our waste to countries that have am even worse history of waste management.

When China and India are the world's factories and we knowingly buy cheap from there at the expense of the environment, i can't help but feel it is hypocritical to condemn them and not ourselves. Poor parts of China and much of India rely on burning coal/dung to cook and heat homes because they dont have electricity. So as much as people love to absolve themselves of all guilt and blame foreigners for the environment, everyone should really take a look at themselves. Carbon footprint per capita of the Chinese has only recently overtaken the UK and EU and is still far, far lower than the US.
 
neil_g said:
The bigger question is why are we still producing single use aa/aaa/etc batteries full stop.
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Perhaps because the rechargeable ones have never quite lived up to the promise.

Less capacity, poorer performance and for many applications simply do not work (Voltage too low, though, yes, in principle gadgets could be designed to accept the lower voltages, but then there would be issues with using non-rechargeable batteries in said gadgets)

IME, I have dabbled with rechargeables for many years but, Like Ecover washing up liquid (And most other "Environmentally friendly" products for that matter), the theory is rather better than the practice.

So it is still Duracells for me (Though they are not as good as they used to be. In the past, Duracells NEVER leaked. Now they do! WTF have they done! :( )
 
I'm personally more concerned about the entire industry of short-lasting disposable mobile phones. Samsung et al seem to be releasing new phones twice a month lol and they're designed in tandem with less efficient software, to be obsolete within 2 years at most lol.

Even basic messaging apps increase by thousands of percent in bloat and unnecessary processes just so they can help dispose of old hardware because whatsapp suddenly needs 50MB of ram to send the same messages as opposed to 1MB 10 years ago.

I remember browsing the net back in 2012 on an old android device, it was fast, and smooth. Browsing the web today on the same device is an utterly horrendous experience! Why? The whole world is irresponsible, not just a disposable battery manufacturer.
 
I've seen these in Morrisons too on those clip strips hanging from the edge of the shelves, although with different packaging.

Ridiculous.
 
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